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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2010, 06:37:57 PM »

ado is disinformation agent!!!

I'm not sure what you specifically mean by "more ownership," but I have full access to the website. If you mean by being able to bring the site back up if the domain should go down, then I'm sure we can set up a co-ownership account and pay half of costs.

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2010, 12:57:14 AM »

If yall want to cover half of costs for server, i have no problem with that, then ill let u login to the biling menu, i already said ill take care of the cost so dont worry, but if it will make u feel better ill let u do it.
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2010, 06:44:01 AM »

different sites:
i for one don't see the big problem anymore if there are different sites co-existing. it splits the activity. but there's no real activity to be split.

as i've said a bunch of times, to me the only revolutionary and thought provoking idea in the whole process we've been through was the attempt to be democratic online. which is why this idea is what my work will focus on. it's a great idea, and even all the debates we've had about it up to now are of value regarding the topic of democracy in general.

invests ownership:
i also don't see the problem with invests ownership of this site as we'd have the same problem if some of us buy part of it. as long as it's privately owned by certain people it's privately owned. and the owners can take it down any time.

the same problem is there with revhh - which is still basically privately owned by myself while marcos is in charge of the files now. it's a "problem", because it doesn't allow complete democracy and doesn't spread responsibilty, but it's not a problem at all for a forum.

it.net or revhh:
so whether it.net or revhh will be the place people post at doesn't actually matter too much. it.net has a name attached to it which is positive in terms of activity and negative in terms of what it stands for. revhh on the other hand was hacked and has broken code. it can't be upgraded to newer codes which is why i don't see a bright future for the forums that already exist. that's what i remember of it - it might very well be fixable by now.

so whichever one is going to be active, i'll be happy to help but because my time is limited i will not run any of it by myself anymore and will focus on the democratic idea.

democracy:
speaking of the democratic idea, me and marcos seem to disagree about it. i don't see democracy as being real unless it's complete. you can't have some democracy when a few people run everything in the end. so i'm going for complete democracy which he isn't and this made me realise that it might not really be bad if we split and run different sites with different ideas behind it.

note: "complete democracy" does not stand for anything slow or so. some misunderstand it. it doesn't mean that everything decision has to be voted on by everybody. it can be a council that is democratically elected and decides about most things - as long as there are veto options for example. complete just means everything, including the ownership, is ultimately subject to the democratic process and the voting population. if a good constitution is worked out, the democracy can be way faster and more efficient than a community run by a few people who don't agree on everything.

i don't see that being possible with either it.net or revhh. so there will be something else. fuckthewhiteman failed, so the new thing will be different and under a different name.
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2010, 12:24:34 PM »

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i for one don't see the big problem anymore if there are different sites co-existing. it splits the activity. but there's no real activity to be split.

It splits the main activity. I'm sure when I say the "core community," you would think of the same handful of people most of us would. Although the "core community" now compared to the core from it.net1 isn't shit, it's still a few people. How much that matters is a completely different topic.

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i also don't see the problem with invests ownership of this site as we'd have the same problem if some of us buy part of it. as long as it's privately owned by certain people it's privately owned. and the owners can take it down any time.

This is what I was also thinking. However, I don't see Invest's ownership of the domain a problem at all; but like he said if it would make some of you feel better, we could set up a co-pay account.

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you can't have some democracy when a few people run everything in the end. so i'm going for complete democracy which he isn't and this made me realise that it might not really be bad if we split and run different sites with different ideas behind it.

I'm still having a hard time grasping how you're going to implement this concept.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2010, 01:14:42 PM »

Which concept exactly?

The "democracy" - or the split up into several sites behind several ideas?
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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2010, 02:12:29 AM »

If yall want to cover half of costs for server, i have no problem with that, then ill let u login to the biling menu, i already said ill take care of the cost so dont worry, but if it will make u feel better ill let u do it.

i just wouldn't want an active site to go down again and we all be powerless to do anything about it.


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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2010, 09:13:04 PM »

It never went down first, people went first i think. Then someone sent a message to me, saying u should just close it.. I think it was anita, and im like well nobody is posting, nothing is going on, and i did. Dont worry it wont go down again.
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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2010, 12:54:07 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2010, 04:29:07 AM »

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I think 2 sites would be fine. I have never stopped liking tech as a rapper, i still think he is one if the illest lyricist today. I would honestly prefer RevHH as a single web page, advertising is always possible, and it has all the latest information. But i really dont care personally, if 2 sites are up ill go to 2.


Who ever wants to pay for the site(s) pays. Thank you and props

I honestly really care about this online community, the people ive met, the things ive learned not just about the world and life even myself. Point is I think we have something really beautiful in what we are wanting. What unites us regardless of race, religion, gender or all the small shit in between, is that we believe in a world that is not the one we are in right now. The one that i, and i think all, really fucking hate is what drove us to come together in the 1st place.

This place had some problems, no different that real life really. Thats why i think its important for us to actually build it. What knight is talking about with a democracy is my goal. Im ready to build a place that is fair and equal to all involved, no power structures where people feel they are being wronged by abuse.

I know we can never agree on everything, thats the great thing about diversity. I love debate, im not gonna stop doing what im doing cuz it makes me learn by challenging my position. arguements are fucking pointless debates where nothing is challenged, nothing is learned about a paticular topic and emotions fly.

The problem then comes that we divide ourselves. Even when we all wanna work for a better future, we all dislike this society with its dailly dose of shit, that can all go out the window with one thread. Agree to disagree, as well as being the most basic cop out ever, should be an elementary rule of life.

What we have to question our self whether or not that disagreement is bigger than a better future for the children. Thats the important part to remember, even if we got something started, even if we accomplished political/economic/social revolution it took GENERATIONS to create this system, to create the mentalities you see today.

Its gonna take time and work, well unless you expect something....um...something to do it in one anyways. either way, im ready to put in the time and the work. It all started with this community and I have love for every single person here. Im glad to be back


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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2010, 12:46:11 PM »

you want a swarm of new members? change the name of the site to Drake-and-lil-wayne.org

immortal technique just isn't hot anymore he hasn't come out with shit and hes been under a rock for forever.
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« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2010, 04:48:39 AM »

Honestly i think "Love Movement"  would attract a lot of new members
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« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2010, 06:41:40 PM »

you want a swarm of new members? change the name of the site to Drake-and-lil-wayne.org

Lol, this would sadly be true. However, foil-hatters are so much more fun than regular 13-year-old white kids.

immortal technique just isn't hot anymore he hasn't come out with shit and hes been under a rock for forever.

I thought he was working on another afghanistan project or some shit. I'm not going to lie, I'm still a fan of his work, I'm just hoping for at least some kind of update.
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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2010, 10:23:12 AM »

Honestly i think "Love Movement"  would attract a lot of new members

Ain't no love here man.

And thank you all for proving DEMONcrazy wrong. Majority rule is asinine. What you need is a Republic. Meaning representatives that protect everyone's rights, with a constitution. The audacity of the majority to think they are right. smh
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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2010, 02:29:51 AM »

Make one drizzle
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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2010, 06:00:07 AM »

Smartest thing you ever said. If I stay here long enough I might just draft one.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

His biography is hence quite intriguing, to say the least, and, just like the best anti aging cream is probably going to be lingering over the shelves of all cosmetic stores for many years to come, Immortal Technique’s songs are going to remain hot, fresh and sought after for a really long time. Due to the fact they speak about topics which are to be considered taboos, his lyrics continue to be listened to with the exterior shutters down in most homes.

Immortal technique was born in Peru, in El Hospital Militar de Lima; several years later, his family moved to America in order to escape the harsh living conditions in Peru. Even though they could not afford to buy any terrain a vendre there, they managed to move to Harlem in the ‘80s. Immortal Technique went to Hunter High School, but just like a hip replacement recall is never of good omen, his grades and behavior weren’t any good during high school either. He was the school bully, he harassed other students and he was not afraid to get involved in scandals with drug dealers from around the area. And while his interactions with these drug dealers were not as numerous as used cars in Phoenix are, they still managed to leave an ugly mark on his biography.

Plus, his graffiti did not actually resemble any Dreamweaver templates, but he was famous for his controversial acts of vandalism. His violence against others almost got him expelled in 1996, but he somehow managed to finish high school and even attend college at Pennsylvania State University. This time, his college experience only lasted for two years; he was then charged and convicted and he was eventually imprisoned in Pennsylvania.

In prison, just like a SEO San Antonio company would focus on booting a web site’s ranking, Immortal Technique also focused on boosting his own social ranking. He began studying the policy of religious history, and, finding the inspiration he needed, he began putting his thoughts in lyrics. In 1999 he was paroled and, even though he was first considered some sort of Agen Bola, as no one had heard of him at first, he began to attend freestyle battles he started winning.

From there on, his career started to bloom, as he gave birth to albums such as “Revolutionary Vol 1” in 2002, “Revolutionary Vol 2” in 2004 and “Revolutionary Vol 3” in 2008. He also became a political activist and started to sing about political injustice (check out his opinion on the imprisonment of Mumia Abu-Jamal or the songs on George W. Bush). Despite of the fact that his albums might not have gotten the type of positive reviews African mango reviews are usually comprised of, this has not stopped him from getting involved in future projects, including an important film collaboration. He might not approve the work of the CNA Financial Corporation, but we all need to eat, right?




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Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

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