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« on: March 07, 2007, 04:06:02 PM »

An interesting conspiracy theory, the question is, did the CIA target radical leftist musicians? There are conspiracy theories about John Lennon and others as well. Any thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 05:18:16 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 06:26:49 PM »

People also think they killed tupac, biggie and Jam Master Jay
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 06:57:07 PM »

I see how they may get Tupac but Biggie and Jam Master Jay? Sorry I don't see it. And if government officials were to murder Tupac I think it would be through the police or FBI rather than the CIA. The CIA may use domestic propaganda but they leave the domestic violence to the police/FBI while taking hold of international violence. Thats why it would make more sense for the CIA to kill Bob Marley (in Jamaica) and John Lennon (in England). Not to mention others like Peter Tosh.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 06:59:40 PM »

Marley was not nearly the threat to the region that people make him out to be.   The CIA more than likely had NOTHING to do with his death.  Funny that people don't look to INTERNAL causes, like the fact that there was massive political unrest and violence in Jamaica at the time when Marley was alive.  He had domestic enemies who would have gladly killed him off without any assistance from the CIA.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2007, 07:01:40 PM »

end of the end they all work for the same people CIA, FBI and the LVPD. like i say they just got BIG so they could label it as acts of simply gang violence. case solved lets celebrate.truth be honest i would not be suprised if they had ties to other murders. was an interesting read quite liked this

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Some people have said Bob Marley was Socialist, or that he was Marxist, but that's not true. He didn't approach politics from an ideological standpoint. He felt the people of South Africa had a right to be free because it's their country and their culture. Everybody has to share in it, in terms of the democracy of their numbers. He didn't feel they deserve to have self-determination because of some political standpoint, but because it was their country and the majority should rule. That's a very simple, non-ideological philosophy. His support of freedoms for those around the world had a real purity of purpose. It was very deeply felt.
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 07:12:12 PM »

Marley was not nearly the threat to the region that people make him out to be. The CIA more than likely had NOTHING to do with his death. Funny that people don't look to INTERNAL causes, like the fact that there was massive political unrest and violence in Jamaica at the time when Marley was alive. He had domestic enemies who would have gladly killed him off without any assistance from the CIA.

That would be a far more simple and logical answer. I agree with it but not totally. If he were to have been killed by a domestic enemy, it would have to have been a powerful one. If not than why the coverup with the cancer story? I'm not sure about the nature of Jamaica's regime in the early 1980s but at that time it began the structural adjustment programs enforced by the World Bank/IMF. That means it was some sort of puppet regime but as far as U.S. political influence I am not sure. If Bob Marley were to have been killed by a ruling politician of Jamaica, to me it would make sense that the U.S. would at least have a little something behind it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 07:14:30 PM »

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Well, I can make a statement like that too, but it isn't necessarily supported with evidence.

Tupac was killed because he was involved in beating a CRIP in a casino.  The people I have met who are/were CRIPS don't take it lightly when someone stomps them out...especially when that someone is rolling with a group of Bloods.  

Biggie was killed because a conctract was put out on him.  No governmental involvement except for crooked off-duty police who were probably trigger men or allowed the trigger men to get away with it.

Street crime is a real problem.  As for Marley, if you have evidence other than conjecture that he was poisoned, i'd like to see it.

As for the political situation in Jamaica:
http://www.photius.com/countries/jamaica/government/jamaica_government_political.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Marley
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2007, 08:43:40 PM »

There was a failed asassination attempt on Marley's life where he was wounded in the arm.  I havent read the info from the link posted but he did put 2 opposing party leaders on stage and they shook hands, or Marley held their hands and put them both in the air as some sorta sign of 'unity' (Not sure if the leaders were sincere or not)   

Also..wasn't John Lennon murdered in NYC in the entrance way of his building in midtown manhattan?  or am I thinking of someone else?

Add:  I think I misunderstood the point you were trying to make wiseman, I see what you are sayin now, I think.^^^
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2007, 08:50:01 PM »

Yes, Marley did that...However, it was taken as a symbol of support for Manley and his government...

The cancer first showed in his toe...it spread after he refused to have it amputated.  If the CIA can cause toe cancer that can kill, then they are skilled assassins indeed.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2007, 08:54:16 PM »

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The cancer first showed in his toe...it spread after he refused to have it amputated.  If the CIA can cause toe cancer that can kill, then they are skilled assassins indeed.

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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 06:35:16 AM »

oh shit yo fuck poirot and holmes we got the muthafuckin godfather up in here.yo case closed. actually now that i think about it u sure your a black dude?


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haha jus playin man, i see what u mean that there is no real solid evidence to support my theory. tho at the same time most evidence that suggest the crip did it is just as inconclusive. lets say that this cocksucker, i think his name was babylane or some shit, did shoot pac from that cadilac, is it really that hard to believe that he was a Puppet. look at cases like malcolm and dr King. this may sound reminiscent of 9/11 but alot of shit from that night just str8 up dont make sense. 1st they in Las Vegas, where apparantly if an alarm goes off the LVPD can have not 1 but 3 choppers in the air within a matter of minutes. yet on that night despite people reporting a shooting they did literally nothing. its almost as if they knew that a black man was involved in that crime. plus this happened on the strip "THE STRIP! no side street. the strip. how many witness' do u need before someone see's something. on the strip on a saturday night after a Mike tyson fight outside circus circus and still NO WITNESS'" haha if y'all aint seen the new Chris Rock please do cuz that shit is funny.

anyway going back to the dickhead at the MGM that to me seems a little suspect. i dont know how gangs roll there, but here, granted in aberdeen these so called gangs are pussy infact when real big boys from london and liverpool come here they laugh at how easy it is to robb people, when one of these wimps are on their own they dont do shit. now even if he didn't instigate the fight, rumour has it it was over a stolen deathrow medalion, where were his boys? why would this guy go to a vegas casino, let alone a mike tyson fight, on his own with out his boys?

now clearly this is all circumstantial and proves nothing at all. but i am keen to know what your view is on tupac's rape case? when u go back and look at the trouble he had with police, u can almost see why they would want him dead. 1st pac was arrested then beaten by officers, which he later took to court and won. He won, they beat him but they had to pay, thus they must have been pissed. next we have the shooting in Atlanta, where he got into a gunfight with 2 offduty policemen who were drunk at the time. unfortunetly a little girl got caught with a stray and died that night. now u know if they COULD they would have pinned that on pac, but evidently the bullet that hit her came from a cops gun, and as they were found to have started it Tupac was once again let off. now he is 2-0 making the government look bad, twice he took them on and twice he won.

Now comes the conspiracy becuase i personally feel right down to the bottom of my heart that they, whomever they are here police CIA whatever, payed that fucking slut, that tramp, to spread her nasty ass legs apart, let some guys fuck her like the ho she is, then say all that bullshit bout my man. Yo pac got sentanced to 2-4 years for "forcefully touchin her buttocks" WHAT THE FUCK, and the guys who actually raped her didn't get shit. so they get him in jail right now they are happy cuz it almost even. however pac stilled continue to thrive at the top of the charts, then he is out after a year. this made it like 4-1 so u know that they were really pissed off, perahaps even enough to want him dead. i dunno i simply feel this was more than just a stupid drive by.

like i said i wanna know what u think of the rape charge? as i felt that was a set up, it seem on logical that they could mascarade this tragic event. granted that my theory does tend to jump around more than a house of pain concert, but i still feel it is just. oh and as for Bob, i think this guy makes a very good case for it in the link. man is it really THAT hard to believe they had involvment in this. with all the shit u know about puppet democracies and the use of paramililaties to control the masses. at the end of the day Bob was a musician, but it was the message he was broadcasting that provoled fear. think of him as a newsreporter, as u might know i like my analogies, and reggae was the channel he operated on. the problem was the whole world was tunning into this channel and listening to what Bob was saying. what do u think they would do to this news station, this station that was braodcasting not only a message of peace, but also about equality and the struggles of third world, all over the world. im sure if i looked i could find examples of USA storming news stations and closing it down.  i admit the guy does tend to hop, skip and jump all over the place, but he does make some good points.

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 10:27:38 AM »

The "rape" charge was bullshit. Clearly they wanted to "get him" because that is what District Attornies want...they want a celebrity lock up.  That type of shit makes careers.

About the witnesses, or lack thereof on the strip:  In Oakland and San Francisco, where I live and work, people get killed in BROAD DAYLIGHT but because the killings are often gang related, when someone comes looking for information, no one saw ANYTHING.  I think a similar thing happened with Pac.  And, pac was not alone the night that he was murdered.  He was with a rather LARGE group of people, all of whom were bloods. 

Marley's message was already out when he died.  He wasn't starting a worldwide revolution...hell, in Africa they had been fighting for years before he became popular.  He more reflected the struggle than anything.  Silencing musicians doesn't seem like it is even worth the CIA or FBI's time.  Why not just put pressure on the recording industry to not make albums or not distribute them?  That would be a lot easier than killing him.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2007, 07:56:32 AM »

He more reflected the struggle than anything.  Silencing musicians doesn't seem like it is even worth the CIA or FBI's time.  Why not just put pressure on the recording industry to not make albums or not distribute them?  That would be a lot easier than killing him.

Thats what they tried to do.

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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2008, 12:55:36 PM »

is it clear who benefited from these deaths?
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2008, 05:58:05 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2008, 06:11:52 PM »

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Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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