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« on: March 10, 2007, 11:46:51 AM »

This was a great documentary forecasted on UKs Channel 4 on Thursday night that utterly destroyed the evidence to support the theory of man-made global warming, while still presenting all the evidence supporting it.

You can watch the whole thing in its entirety here:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638&q=global+warming+swindle

Alternatively, if you want to see just an important couple of minutes debunking Al Gore's alarming graphs in his film an inconveniant truth (relevant clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAJaxSURZTo#IJ_rsqe2DEQ)
Here is the debunk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-LPN9PkLK4#YQlSx1wKfx4

My personal belief is that man-made global warming is just being used as an excuse to introduce more taxes, limit people's freedom, and the development of the third world, as well as creating a justification for the use of Nuclear Power (madness.)
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 12:51:32 PM »

Pretty controversial. Good video man. My grandpa held this point of view but i doubted him, funny how much control the media has over us all. Im glad i got to see this.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2007, 05:24:14 PM »

Yes, me too, I'm a staunch environmentalist, but I'd rather my movement was concentrating on matters that are actually important instead of a stupid smoke screen.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2007, 10:14:27 PM »

This is not a smokescreen.  Denying it is tantamount to denying evolution.  The level of agreement in the scientific community is so near universal that few other scientific discussions can match the level of agreement.  When agreement on a scientific issue is that high and that widespread, it might as well be seen as a fact.


I don't see how global warming is a way to introduce more taxes...warfare is that reason more than anything.  Limiting people's freedom how?  You can't drive a massively polluting vehicle?  You can't open a factory that spews gas into that atmosphere?  That is a weak angle.  The nuke power part may have some legs but overall, the opponents of global warming tend to be the oil industry, the auto industry and the coal industry...that's some illustrious company right there.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2007, 07:17:23 AM »

This is not a smokescreen. Denying it is tantamount to denying evolution. The level of agreement in the scientific community is so near universal that few other scientific discussions can match the level of agreement. When agreement on a scientific issue is that high and that widespread, it might as well be seen as a fact.

God you are such a drone. It was widely believed that the earth was flat.
You are wrong in saying it's widely accepted in the scientific community or that denying man-made global warming is tantamout to denying evolution, the number of scientists who not only believe but can show clearly that global warming is not due to human release of CO2 is absolutely huge, their voices just aren't heard as loudly over the screaming alarmism.

You only need to take one look at my book shelf to know that I am an environmentalist, a staunch one, and if this was true, trust me I would be all over this as I have been before coming into all the evidence. It's a crock, you should at least read the other side before dismissing it in such a headstrong manner.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2007, 12:14:10 PM »

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God you are such a drone. It was widely believed that the earth was flat.

THAT is a myth. It was created by Washington Irving.  It was never widely accepted that the Earth was flat.  It doesn't even look flat.  Why would there be a horizon if it was flat?

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The modern misconception that people of the Middle Ages believed that the Earth was flat first entered the popular imagination in the nineteenth century, thanks largely to the publication of Washington Irving's fantasy The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2007, 12:17:28 PM »

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God you are such a drone. It was widely believed that the earth was flat.

THAT is a myth. It was created by Washington Irving. It was never widely accepted that the Earth was flat. It doesn't even look flat. Why would there be a horizon if it was flat?

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The modern misconception that people of the Middle Ages believed that the Earth was flat first entered the popular imagination in the nineteenth century, thanks largely to the publication of Washington Irving's fantasy The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth



lol I actually know all that, but I was using the turn of phrase to make a point. Just because something is widely believed down't mean it's true.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2007, 12:20:18 PM »

Well, when making a point, it helps to say something that is actually true.  Otherwise it makes you look foolish, especially if you claim to have known that and said it anyway.

But that is irrelevant, because none of that makes you look as foolish as when you deny global warming.  I enjoy that one of your arguments is "Guys, if it were true, I would know.  Trust me.  I have many leatherbound books on the subject."
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2007, 12:34:09 PM »

i agree, to think that the release of C02 and other gases is not going to harm the environment is simply ridiculous. although it may not be the prime cause of climate change, nature itself will take of that through the years, i certainly feel that we are not helping and something needs to be done.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2007, 01:21:51 PM »

Well, when making a point, it helps to say something that is actually true. Otherwise it makes you look foolish, especially if you claim to have known that and said it anyway.

But that is irrelevant, because none of that makes you look as foolish as when you deny global warming. I enjoy that one of your arguments is "Guys, if it were true, I would know. Trust me. I have many leatherbound books on the subject."

- First of all, all I did was use a popular turn of phrase to make a point, many expressions when taken literally don't actually mean anything sensible.

- Secondly, I didn't deny Global Warming, thats a strawman argument, I just said it it's caused by solar activity, not man-made CO2 emissions. The science is on my side, but you're not even willing to consider it so you might as well believe that the world is flat and not look at the science that shows it is round.

- Third of all combatting man-made global warming (a myth) has sucked up so much time and effort from the Green Movement. I would rather our environmental movements were concentrating on any number of more important environmental issues, such as overfarming, water depletion, the growth obsession, nuclear proliferation, conservation, etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum. CO2 does not cause global warming, thats a crock, and it's diverting attention away from vital environmental issues.
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2007, 01:38:16 PM »

This is not a smokescreen. Denying it is tantamount to denying evolution. The level of agreement in the scientific community is so near universal that few other scientific discussions can match the level of agreement. When agreement on a scientific issue is that high and that widespread, it might as well be seen as a fact.

God you are such a drone. It was widely believed that the earth was flat.
You are wrong in saying it's widely accepted in the scientific community or that denying man-made global warming is tantamout to denying evolution, the number of scientists who not only believe but can show clearly that global warming is not due to human release of CO2 is absolutely huge, their voices just aren't heard as loudly over the screaming alarmism.

You only need to take one look at my book shelf to know that I am an environmentalist, a staunch one, and if this was true, trust me I would be all over this as I have been before coming into all the evidence. It's a crock, you should at least read the other side before dismissing it in such a headstrong manner.

Classic...you don't have a strong argument so you use an incredibly weak analogy preceded by an insult.  MurdaH showed that the "earth is flat" nonsense to be exactly that.

Here, let's look at an actual source, instead of taking your word that " the number of scientists who not only believe but can show clearly that global warming is not due to human release of CO2 is absolutely huge, their voices just aren't heard as loudly over the screaming alarmism."

You cannot cite one scientist...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

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The only major scientific organization that rejects the finding of human influence on recent climate is the American Association of Petroleum Geologists.

GO FIGURE!

Again, consensus in the scientific community over any issue is almost unheard of.  Clearly, this is a well-researched threat, with strong evidence that you cannot possibly accept but insist on denying because everything is a conspiracy to you.  The real conspiracy is that all of this information has been largely suppressed and now it might be too late to do anything to stop it.   When pieces of an ice shelf the size of connecticut are breaking off, PEOPLE NEED TO BE ALARMED!

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/kidsiceberg1.html

As for you saying "I am an environmentalist" after posting this nonsense...that is tantamount to posting something racist and then saying "but I have such and such kind of friend"... You are in the extreme minority of environmentalists if you think that man-made global warming is just "alarmism."  Next time you fall for the propaganda of the Oil industry and the Republican Party's "scientific" advisors, don't start throwing insults around when it gets exposed as such.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2007, 01:57:40 PM »

Well GOS you know that the American Association of Petroleum Geologists is the most unbiased group on this subject. Revolutionary Jam is right global warming is just a catch word used by international nuclear power moguls/jews.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2007, 03:21:36 PM »

Godfather have you even bothered to watch the documentary yet?

Also Ice Caps have been getting THICKER over the past years, not thinner.
You still haven't actually retorted to a single one of my points on the issue.

can I say this enough times? THE AMMOUNT OF CO2 EMMITTED BY HUMAN INDUSTRIAL PROCESSES IS DIMINISHINGLY SMALL COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF CO2 EMMITTED BY VOLCANOES AND THE SEA.

how about this? THE RISE IN CO2 FOLLOWS THE RISE IN TEMPERATURE, NOT VICE VERSA. THE SEA GIVES OFF MORE CO2 WHEN IT IS HOT THAN WHEN IT IS COLD.

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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2007, 03:23:47 PM »

can u explain where the sea gets carbon to produce C02
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2007, 03:50:53 PM »

erm all the animals in the sea that are breathing?
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2007, 04:03:16 PM »

sorry allow me to rephrase, how does heating sea water prodeuce c02. i would have though that under the concept of fractional distilation all the parts would come out seperately, you know oxygen and hydrogen with deposits of carbon and salt.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2007, 04:17:13 PM »

I don't know the science behind it but it's tr00

Maybe when it's warmer the animals become more abundant.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2007, 04:29:59 PM »

oooh, look what I just found:

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Scientists who questioned mankind's impact on climate change have received death threats and claim to have been shunned by the scientific community.

They say the debate on global warming has been "hijacked" by a powerful alliance of politicians, scientists and environmentalists who have stifled all questioning about the true environmental impact of carbon dioxide emissions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=H5IU0MZKY5H3BQFIQMFCFF4AVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2007/03/11/ngreen211.xml


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"Scientists who dissent from the alarmism have seen their funds disappear, their work derided, and themselves labelled as industry stooges.

"Consequently, lies about climate change gain credence even when they fly in the face of the science."
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2007, 05:40:09 PM »

sorry allow me to rephrase, how does heating sea water prodeuce c02. i would have though that under the concept of fractional distilation all the parts would come out seperately, you know oxygen and hydrogen with deposits of carbon and salt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Capturing.2FExtracting_CO2

"As the oceans warm, carbon dioxide solubility in the surface waters decreases markedly. However, the overall system is quite complex, as indicated above, and further details may be found in the article on the carbon solubility pump."
If solubility goes down that would cause co2 to be released.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2007, 05:44:03 PM »

I don't know the science behind it but it's tr00

aparantely so, although i could not find levels of how much,the whole molecule is dissolved then released as one instead of individual elements . either way the greenhouse effect does happen and although i dont think its the primary cause of global warming, the earth has seen extreme climate chages in the past without our help, i certainly feel that its not helping. and remember C02 is not the only greenhouse gas we need to check, infact water vapour makes up the majority portion of it



common misconception but those big towers are actually cooling tower releasing water vapour. the little ones on the left are from incineration of the fossil fuels.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

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Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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