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« on: June 02, 2007, 09:22:49 AM »

WRONG LINK.....POSTED....1st TIME

Black Jesus Clip:   http://youtube.com/watch?v=B6Oq8AcZW_g

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2007, 09:35:13 AM »

It's very possible 'if' he existed. I believe the religion was a major justification and tool for the Black Slave Trade. Not to mention the Native genocide in America. What started as a black racist religion ended up a white racist religion.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 09:40:45 AM »

ARE YOU A WHITE PERSON?  (Just kidding)

Seriously though,  this isnt about the religion, its about the portrayal of the image of 'Jesus'.  Elaborate on that if you will. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 08:34:35 PM »

Whats up with the first link?
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2007, 09:01:58 PM »

The first link is what is calling for the discussion.   The second one is for another angle on the topic.   
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2007, 07:30:56 AM »

I am confused about the first link too. It is about a gay rapper.

And I thought Jesus was Middle Eastern? But it is probably more symbolic than anything.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2007, 07:52:16 AM »

Sorry folks I didnt realize that I had posted the wrong link, please see the link now.

Thanks for pointing that out
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2007, 09:04:54 AM »

I thought it was something about this:

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2007, 09:05:51 AM »

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Sorry guys but Jesus is Dominican and owns a bodega around the corner from my apartment.
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2007, 05:55:19 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2007, 08:13:51 PM »

I thought Jesus was a Jew, and they are blacker back in da dayz.
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2007, 07:33:49 AM »

I think the one of the points the film is trying to do is challenge the image of Jesus that has developed over the centuries and present a good question: Is Jesus's appearance more important than his message? In movies and paintings Jesus and other biblically figures (except for Judas, I guess it is ok for the betrayer of Jesus to be black or appearance wise "Jewish") has been almost exclusively been portrayed as white people, even though the bible and the area where Jesus and other biblically figures came from casts doubt on that. For some people Jesus's appearance or "race" considers heavily into their beliefs and it would be unthinkable to consider Jesus as a person of color even though his appearance does not change his message.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2007, 06:46:47 AM »

What I actually found interesting besides the debate on race, was the Fox Newscaster who was talking about the time of the season.    I'm like Christmas is not catholic or christian, Christmas is a pagan holiday (in essence polytheistic) which therefore is blasphemous in the Christian ideal if we're taking the religion seriously.   

It's unfortunate that so many of these people bow themselves down to really lies without studying the facts but come across with this indignant fury when someone questions the norm.

Technically speaking Yeshua was a black man, the Madonna we're so familiar of or it's portrayal is based on a stolen statue of the black Madonna which was found in a church within Ethiopia and which was a representation of Menelik and his mother Makeda (Queen of Sheba).    Stolen and kept as a prize or trophy and then remolded to promote the further "white-washing" of the world.   

It's sad, I left the church myself because I couldn't understand why I bow down to a white Jesus for salvation as if he's the 'Great White Hope' and yet it's these same people I bow down too because I'm encased in invisible bonds of slavery.   The message is lost when you're living a lie.    And basically the rituals of Christian are lies that society has been living for years so technically there was never a true message to value.   So there is no message.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2007, 06:44:47 AM »

Good points Vaberella.  Nice to see that people are able to see this issue for what it is.   

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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2007, 01:06:41 AM »

I couldn't help but notice in the 2nd video the producer not being able to tell the idiot (Hannity) Why Jesus was persecuted because of race.  He was right tho, it isn't about race at the end of the day.  It's about fact and the message.  According to the bible Jesus was persecuted by law makers, by religious leaders.  The same people running America today, the same people who support the current configuration of our Government. 

The people didn't crucify Jesus.  The government crucified Jesus.  The officials crucified Jesus.  Do you think if our government believed in 10% of what the bible stood for we would be as ruthless, selfish.  and careless as we are portrayed by them?

Vaberlla pointed out something important.  Most religions are reflected by statues and symbols of faith.  Do you think if there is a religion for righteousness, that there in turn is a religion for the exact opposite.  Wouldn't it be in the best interest for the opposite religion to infiltrate and manipulate its rival.  If anyone has heard of the 'Skull and Bones Society' there is your clue to the underground church which promotes the cremation of care, worry and consciousness taken by our very same Government today.
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2007, 12:37:54 AM »

Jesus was [most scientificly likely] Middle Eastern.

He was supposedly born in? Bethlehem.   What do the people in Bethlehem look like?

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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2007, 12:40:37 AM »

Why the fuck does everyone call him Jesus.  His name was Y'suah ben Yosef and ma'fuckas it doesn't translate to Jesus.
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Jesus is the English translation.
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Y'suah doesn't translate to Jesus in English sorry.
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