Ron Paul Is A Racist, Like Most All Republicans

[atlien]

I tire of posting this on so-called political websites but it seems that so many self-styled reasonable folks have been taken in by this acid love affair with Ron Paul, the racist.

Here are some of the things he has written about black people.
http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action

Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal

we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers

and this,

We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such

I wouldn't want this guy to be my grocer, no less my president.  He's a nightmare.

But I'm sure that won't stop the defenses of his racism from rolling in.  It never does.

This misunderstanding about Paul is tied to the misunderstanding of basic political realities in the US.  The bullshit about the Republican Party being the Party of abolition, the party of Lincoln and other similar disingenuous nonsense that people are allowed to get away with nowadays.

The Republican Party is based on anti-black racism and every other litmus is subordinate to that primary standard.  Our political parties are a sham.  But the Republican Party is particularly disgusting in that its rank and file membership as well as its leadership have historically organized, before all else, against US blacks.  This isn't a contemporary analysis, although it could be.  The Republicans have been doing this since they existed.  The party of Lincoln quite literally isn't the Republican Party that exists today.  The Republican membership of that day switched over to the Democrats when the Dems tacitly supported Civil Rights and Voting Rights for blacks.  And the racist that were the Democrats and Dixiecrats became the Republicans we know today.  A short reading of the history of both parties verifies these facts.  The membership of the Republican party has always been based on anti-black racism.

In today's age of universal obfuscation and end around argumentation and thought, you'll find much written about how the Republicans stand for small govt, family values and a strong defense. 

Racist code, all of it.

The small govt line grew out of the desire by the white racists composing the Republican Party to minimize or eliminate the governmental structures that sought to even marginally correct the wrongs done to blacks by whites.  That is why they want small govt.  They don't want redress of the crimes whites as a group committed and continue to benefit from. 
Blatant racism has gone out of style so now they pretend small govt is about personal liberty from taxes.

The family values bullshit came out of the eugenics movement that frowned upon interracial marriage and ANY mixing or mongrelization, as they called it. 
Blatant racism has gone out of style so now they pretend family values is about conventional marriages (and they do use this to oppress gays as well as frown on any mixing of the pure and impure).

The strong defense bullshit has morphed into a monster of epic proportions.  Read Jeremy Scahill's Blackwater.  It details the rise of the private security industry.  There are more privately owned gun-toters in the US now than there are police officers of all cities combined.  This is an empire and empires do what they do, they reach out for more land and resources.  Thus the strong defense line is convenient for keeping the military growing as much as possible.  And if not the military, promotion of the growth of private armies like Blackwater USA, that stand at the ready to kick Iraqi, Palestinian and New Orleans ass.  Strong defense equals private mercs that work for whites and against non-whites.

These are the main tenets of the Republican Party and its deeply embedded in race.  So when I discover that Ron Paul is a racist, its less a discovery and more a 'it figures'.  The Republican Party is based on racism and its leadership will never be exempt from this most basic rule.

[regrant2]

Check out about the guy before posting such a thread man, I don't like nowadays republicans, but believe me Ron Paul is a true republican like were the fathers of the constitution(which is being tore apart by Bush's administration) :


It was a writer for his newsletter that wrote it while he was out campaigning which makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE.

hxxp: en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Ron_Paul

    "They were never my words, but I had some moral responsibility for them. . . I actually really wanted to try to explain that it doesn't come from me directly, but they [campaign aides] said that's too confusing.  'It appeared in your letter and your name was on that letter and therefore you have to live with it. '"[94][11]

He further stated:

    "I could never say this in the campaign, but those words weren't really written by me.  It wasn't my language at all.  Other people help me with my newsletter as I travel around.  I think the one on Barbara Jordan was the saddest thing, because Barbara and I served together and actually she was a delightful lady. . .  we wanted to do something on affirmative action, and it ended up in the newsletter and became personalized.  I never personalize anything. "[11]


Check out Ron Paul's own words about racism and governement.

hxxp: www. lewrockwell. com/paul/paul381. html


It's easy to see that Ron Paul is full of integrity.  A racist? No way.

[marcos]

Fuck Ron Paul. people should know beter than to support a white supremacist.


Ron Paul Hates You

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/5/193414/2787

...let's have a look at some of the many, many issues on which Ron Paul places himself squarely in opposition to me and, presumably, you:

Abortion: Ron Paul's "libertarianism" famously does not extend to the right of a woman to control her body. In February he introduced H.R. 1094, "[t]o provide that human life shall be deemed to exist from conception." He voted against overriding Bush's veto of the stem cell bill.

The Environment: Ron Paul may be a Republican, but he's certainly not a Republican for Environmental Protection. That fine organization gave Paul a shameful 17 percent rating on its most recent Congressional Scorecard (warning: PDF). He doesn't fare much better in the eyes of the American Wilderness Coalition or the League of Conservation Voters. Paul's abysmal record on the environment is driven in large measure by his love of sweet, sweet oil: in the 109th Congress alone, he voted to voted allow drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, to shield oil companies from MTBE contamination lawsuits, against increasing gas mileage standards, to allow new offshore drilling, and to stop making oil companies pay royalties to the government for drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Par for the course for a man who called the Kyoto accords "bad science, bad economics and bad domestic policy" and "anti-Americanism masquerading as environmentalism."

Immigration: Paul marches in lock-step with the xenophobic right wing on immigration, calling last month's compromise immigration bill "a compromise of our laws, a compromise of our sovereignty, and a compromise of the Second Amendment." Yet even the hardcore nativists in the immigration debate have been hesitant to support repealing birthright citizenship as enshrined in the Fourteenth Amendment, as Paul has done. His proposed Constitutional amendment, introduced as H. J. Res 46 on April 28, 2005, reads: "Any person born after the date of the ratification of this article to a mother and father, neither of whom is a citizen of the United States nor a person who owes permanent allegiance to the United States, shall not be a citizen of the United States or of any State solely by reason of birth in the United States." Only four other Representatives, all Republicans, were willing to cosponsor this proposed amendment.

Civil Rights: Paul doesn't much care for ensuring your right to vote. Like when he voted with just 32 other members of Congress against reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Or when he voted for the bogus "Federal Election Integrity Act" voter suppression bill.

But at least Ron Paul knows who's responsible for racism in America: you are. "By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality," he writes, "the advocates of so-called 'diversity' actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups." So now you know. (Apparently, saying that "f you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be" is not racist, as long as it's said with a proper appreciation for free-market economics.)

Gay Rights: Paul's rigid, uncompromising libertarianism leads him to take a number of positions that liberals find objectionable or even reprehensible but which should not in themselves be taken as ipso facto evidence of bigotry. His reflexive opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, for example, is consistent with libertarian positions on federalism and the right of the individual to be free from government "coercion," even if that means limiting the ability of minorities to seek employment and housing free from discrimination.

Still, libertarian orthodoxy can't fully explain Paul's hostility to gay rights, and indeed to gay people in general. The Libertarian Party, which nominated Paul as its presidential candidate in 1988, has strongly opposed the so-called Defense of Marriage Act from the beginning; Paul supports it. While he opposed the "Federal Marriage Amendment" that would have outlawed gay marriage everywhere, he actually cosponsored the odious "Marriage Protection Act," which would nonsensically bar federal courts from considering challenges to the Defense of Marriage Act, which is a federal law. "The definition of marriage--a union between a man and a woman--can be found in any dictionary," he writes condescendingly. Despite Paul's disingenuous claims that he is a "strict constitutionalist," most legal scholars agree that the so-called Marriage Protection Act would be unconstitutional.

You also will not find Paul listed among the 124 co-sponsors of the Military Readiness Enhancement Act of 2007, which would repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy barring gays and lesbians from serving in the military. Maybe he's worried that they'll take their "gay agenda" to far-flung corners of the world. He also doesn't want gay people adopting children while they're not serving in the military, either.

On a personal level, we have this 1993 quote wherein Paul equates homosexuality with "sexual deviance." And let's not forget his wink-wink characterization of Hillary Clinton as "a far leftist with very close female friends".

Church-State Separation: From keeping "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance to co-sponsoring the school prayer amendment to keeping the Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn, this "strict constitutionalist" isn't a big fan of the Constitutionally-mandated separation of church and state. "Religious morality will always inform the voting choices of Americans of all faiths," he writes. "...The collectivist left" --that's you!-- "is threatened by strong religious institutions, because it wants an ever-growing federal government to serve as the unchallenged authority in our society.... So the real motivation behind the insistence on a separation of church and state is not based on respect for the First amendment, but rather on a desire to diminish the influence of religious conservatives at the ballot box."

And just in case the dirty liberals in the federal court system might take it into their heads to enforce the Establishment Clause, Mr. Strict Constitutionalist introduced a bill to bar the federal courts from hearing any such cases. No wonder James Dobson's Family Research Council gave Paul a 75 percent rating on their 2005 scorecard.

International Relations: Like crackpot paleoconservatives everywhere, Paul wants us out of the United Nations, which is just a bunch of un-American non-Americans out to destroy America. Darfur is also filled with non-Americans, so you certainly won't find Ron Paul lifting a finger to stop the genocide, or even acknowledge that genocide is taking place. I guess that's why he's one of only four members of Congress to receive an "F" rating on Darfur from the Genocide Intervention Network.

Peace and Military Issues: With all the hooting and hollering about Paul's opposition to the Iraq war, it sure seems like he should have been able to get better than 58 percent from PeacePAC, doesn't it? Even Joe Lieberman managed to get 63 percent. (Still, it beats the 45 percent Paul got from them in the previous Congress.) He did a little better from Peace Action, managing 67 percent--easily the top score for a Republican, but a below-average score for Democrats. (Still, it beats the 40 percent he got from them in 2004.)

And while Paul may oppose the Iraq war, he doesn't seem to have much use for the men and women who have to fight it. Paul received an "F" rating from the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. It's not easy to get an F from the IAVA; Paul shares this distinction with only six other members of the House.

Taxes: Do we even need to go into this one? If you audaciously believe that we need a progressive system of taxation in this country, here's what Ron Paul thinks of you:

    * "[W]e have exactly the kind of steeply progressive tax system championed by Karl Marx. One might expect the left to be happy with such an arrangement.  At its core, however, the collectivist left in this country simply doesn’t believe in tax cuts.  Deep down, they believe all wealth belongs to the state, which should redistribute it via tax and welfare policies to achieve some mythical 'social justice.'... The class war tactic highlights what the left does best: divide Americans into groups.  Collectivists see all issues of wealth and taxation as a zero-sum game played between competing groups.  If one group gets a tax break, other groups must be rallied against it- even if such a cut would ultimately benefit them.... Upward mobility is possible only in a free-market capitalist system, whereas collectivism dooms the poor to remain exactly where they are."
    * "Collectivist politicians forget that the American dream of becoming wealthy is alive and well. They seek to encourage resentment of the wealthy, when in truth most Americans admire successful people. They forget that upward mobility, the chance to start from humble beginnings and achieve wealth and position, is virtually impossible in high-tax socialist societies. Most of all, however, the pro-tax politicians forget that your money belongs to you. As a society, we should not forget their dishonesty when we go to the polls."

Screw this; this diary's way too long already. Worker rights: Voted to defund OSHA's ergonomics rules. Voted against increasing mine safety standards. Hates unions. Campaign finance reform: Opposes. Social Security and Medicare: Repeats the Republicans' lies about the programs' solvency. Consumer protection: Voted for the bankruptcy bill. Voted to make it harder to file class-action lawsuits. Universal health care: don't make me laugh. Privatizing everything: the Internets are not large enough to hold all the citations.

"But he's against the war!" Yes, he is. So is Pat Buchanan. So is David Duke. If either of them were on the stage in New Hampshire today, full of sweet words about the war, would you be as quick to praise their "independence," to gush about how well of course I wouldn't vote for him myself but he sure is awesome anyway? Do you truly require nothing from a political candidate other than that he oppose the war?

[regrant2]

Fuck Ron Paul. people should know beter than to support a white supremacist.

Do you truly require nothing from a political candidate other than that he oppose the war?

Obviously you haven't checked at his voting record :
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

I don't know who you're supporting, but most of candidates(Hillary for example) voted for the patriot act.

If he is a white supremacist, why does he want us to have freedom?

He's the only republican who's not an asshole, just check on him before talking.


Immortal Technique has the same view than Ron Paul, and you will see that he will support him. The guy just need to get known.

Do you know one candidate who dares to talk about the Federal reserve scam in congress/senate?
Ron Paul does, so do Immortal.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q

[murdaLicious]

Obviously you haven't checked at his voting record :
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

I don't know who you're supporting, but most of candidates(Hillary for example) voted for the patriot act.

If he is a white supremacist, why does he want us to have freedom?

He's the only republican who's not an asshole, just check on him before talking.


Immortal Technique has the same view than Ron Paul, and you will see that he will support him. The guy just need to get known.

Do you know one candidate who dares to talk about the Federal reserve scam in congress/senate?
Ron Paul does, so do Immortal.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q

he wants white people to have "freedom."  By the way, please define "freedom" for me.  And also, I'm sure that Immortal Technique and Ron Paul have significantly different views on immigration.  Oh, and also on white supremacy.  Fuck Ron Paul.  Voting for Ron Paul because you like his stance on the Federal Reserve is like voting for Hitler because you like the Autobahn.

He has never voted to raise taxes.

Taxes aren't bad.

[regrant2]

Ok, peep this :

Taxes aren't bad?

The USA is meant to be a capitalistic states and we're getting 30% of taxes man! They pay the same amount of taxes in Europe.

And do you really enjoy what your governement is doing from your taxes?

Do you enjoy filling up Halliburton's pocket with your money?



On immigration : Ron Paul wants to give amnesty to immigrants who are already here, but he wants to stop the immigration.
Do you honestly think that we can afford to welcome everyone from Mexico? Look at our economy.

Stopping immigration doesn't mean that you are a white supremacist.


Sorry but you're biased man, you haven't checked on the guy. He's far from being a racist, he has nothing to do with other republicans, other republicans hate him, just check the GOP debate.

You can't trust any other candidates who voted FOR the patriot act. And this have nothing to do with the color of your skin. I'm black and I vote for Ron Paul.


Would Immortal Technique vote for the Patriot Act? Just ask yourself or don't and vote Hillary who voted for.

[Knight]

Ok, peep this :

Taxes aren't bad?

The USA is meant to be a capitalistic states and we're getting 30% of taxes man! They pay the same amount of taxes in Europe.

And do you really enjoy what your governement is doing from your taxes?

Do you enjoy filling up Halliburton's pocket with your money?

A lot of people around here aren't even in support of a capitalistic economy. Besides, paying taxes hasn't really anything to do with capitalism. Of course, if you want to live in anarcho-capitalism, which to me is one of the worst options overall, then you are against taxes of any form.

Plus, what does "30% of taxes" mean? And why are you comparing it to Europe, are Europe's economies not mostly organized as free market economies?

Taxes can't be good or bad. But they can be too low or too high and just or unjust. Of course the US goverment is spending a lot of tax money on things we don't support, but at the same time it is NOT spending it on things we actually think it should be.

On immigration : Ron Paul wants to give amnesty to immigrants who are already here, but he wants to stop the immigration.
Do you honestly think that we can afford to welcome everyone from Mexico? Look at our economy.

Stopping immigration doesn't mean that you are a white supremacist.

Are you serious? Do you have the slightest idea what the economy of the US would look like if it weren't for immigration? It'd be fucked up, just like any other bigger economy of "developed yountries".
Plus, what do you mean with "Look at our economy?"? Do you mean we should compare it to the economy of Mexico because Mexico is doing so much better than the US?

Sorry but you're biased man, you haven't checked on the guy. He's far from being a racist, he has nothing to do with other republicans, other republicans hate him, just check the GOP debate.

What the fuck is he doing in the Republican Party then. Why is he so successful as a member of that party?

Would Immortal Technique vote for the Patriot Act? Just ask yourself or don't and vote Hillary who voted for.

This is seriously annoying. First of all you have no idea who Tech is going to vote for if he's going to do it AT ALL, which is something I doubt.
Also, nobody really gives a shit. Immortal Technique could vote for Augusto Pinochet and it would not change my opinion of Pinochet at all, it would only make Tech look like an idiot. The same goes for voting for Ron Paul.

[piercehawkeye45]

Regrant, if you are going to compare him to a democratic candidate, don't use Hilary. I am quite sure no one here likes her either.

Paul has a good three or four issues that I agree with then another twenty that I don't. On the democratic side I can switch that around entirely. I give credit that Paul is not owned but I am not a libertarian or ever want to be represented by one either.

You seem so confident that IT would support Paul because of the Patriot Act but what about his abolishment of the welfare state?

[regrant2]

Knight:

-About taxes :

Europe has a mixed market economy because states in Europe still run services like Hospitals, public transportations, post offices.
They also have way higher welfare than here, health insurance, big pensions...
But right, it tends to become more and more a free market economy, but it's not yet they are still very far from our economy.

-About immigration :

Of course immigrants are needed. But my point is that Ron Paul is the only candidate who would close the borders and hinder the United states to become part of the the North american union.
(he's the only candidates who dares to speak about it, that's another reason for his lack of coverage)

Check out this video from Lou Dobbs on Cnn about the North american union(maybe u know about it but still, lots of people think it's a conspiracy http://youtube.com/watch?v=XdxI0zClV_Y )

-About Ron Paul 's position in the Republican party:

Unfortunately in our democracies you need to be part of the Two main party if you want to get some media coverage.
He ran as a libertarian in 1988 where he won the nomination of the United States Libertarian party but he didn't get any coverage at all.

Not all republicans voters are scumbag, it's just that Bush screwed up really bad. There are also lots of democrats registering republican to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.
The reason? People start to understand that the choice of the media isn't good for America.

piercehawkeye45

-About the Welfare

Yeah, you're right, it's one view on which I don't agree with him either.




But asides from all views we can have on candidates, politics and stuffs, we need to see to which direction the United States is heading.
North american union is for real, and it will mainly benefit to big corporations. Which means that the media's candidates are not the one we should vote for.

I may not agree with some of Ron Paul's view, you may not either, but we can agree that we can't trust the media's candidate choice.

[piercehawkeye45]

You do realize that their are two candidates from the democratic party that aren't media candidates right? Gravel and Kucinich both aren't controlled by the media and both have solid records. Kucinich probably sounds the most realistic right now and by the way Gravels been acting, he doesn't stand a chance.

Look here for the views:
http://www.immortal-technique.com/forum/index.php/topic,2679.0.html

[Knight]

regrant2.

You say immigrants are needed in the US and that you supoprt Ron Paul's idea of closing the border at the same time. That doesn't make sense.

As for the Northern American Union: I watched the Youtube video but it didn't explain AT ALL why there is a need to close the borders either. Besides, it offered zero proof for plans of a corporate elite to actually accomplish that goal of a (Northern?) American Union.
It also does not explain why we should vote for Ron Paul when in the video it seems that a part of the agenda of that certain corporate elite is to deregulate the economies - and at the same time Ron Paul a is free market supporter, an economical liberal who is in favor of deregulations himself.

To me it seems obvious that this whole conspiracy about so called Northern American Unions is abused by US nationalists to have a reason to close the borders and stop immigration.

As for the Republican Party: If you say that it is Buch who screwed it up really bad for the party you actually voice support for earlier Republican persidents. Ronald Reagan for example. Do you like his ideas?

I'd love to meet republican voters who aren't scumbags. Haven't had the pleasure to do so yet.

[Nat Turner]

On immigration : Ron Paul wants to give amnesty to immigrants who are already here, but he wants to stop the immigration.

Do you honestly think that we can afford to welcome everyone from Mexico? Look at our economy.

Stopping immigration doesn't mean that you are a white supremacist.




Would Immortal Technique vote for the Patriot Act? Just ask yourself or don't and vote Hillary who voted for.

[/quote


Yes we should welcome everyone from Mexico since Mexicans = Native Americans.

[marcos]

On immigration : Ron Paul wants to give amnesty to immigrants who are already here

Wrong.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-security-and-immigration-reform/

- No amnesty.  Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
- No welfare for illegal aliens.  Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules.  But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
- End birthright citizenship.  As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. 

That's as anti-immigrant as it gets. Fuck Ron Paul.

Taxes aren't bad?

Ron Paul wants to eliminate income tax supposedly because he supports "individual responisbility". Basically that's a "fuck you" to the poor, to single mothers, the disabled, and the elderly. It's nothing more than republican language for pro-rich propaganda.

Would Immortal Technique vote for the Patriot Act? Just ask yourself or don't and vote Hillary who voted for.

would Immortal Technique vote for an anti-immigrant racist white Texas republican?

and I don't buy his story about other people ghostwriting the racist article. If it is true, it still says something about him and the people he keeps close to him.

[regrant2]

That's as anti-immigrant as it gets. Fuck Ron Paul.
Ron Paul wants to eliminate income tax supposedly because he supports "individual responisbility". Basically that's a "fuck you" to the poor, to single mothers, the disabled, and the elderly. It's nothing more than republican language for pro-rich propaganda.

would Immortal Technique vote for an anti-immigrant racist white Texas republican?

and I don't buy his story about other people ghostwriting the racist article. If it is true, it still says something about him and the people he keeps close to him.

Here are some of the things he has written about black people.
http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

It was written 15 years ago by an assistant who doesn't work for him anymore. Is this all you have to make him look like a racist with such a thread title?

Ron Paul is not against the immigrants who are already here and have a Visa, he's against Illegal aliens.


Knight : http://youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

Check by yourself about the NoA, it's not a conspiracy and none of the candidates who are running have an agenda against it.(except Ron Paul)
The UE exists so european countries may have a stronger economy. So now what's the answer to the crumbling Dollar?

piercehawkeye45 :

Yes they aren't owned by the media, but they don't have enough support. Ron Paul's support is growing everyday, he went from 1million$ to 5$ of donations in 1 month since his appearance in the GOP debate.

Also, just check online polls, digg.com, reddit, sort videos by top rated of the month on youtube and see how many Ron Paul videos you can find.

Also, I'm a democrat, but I don't I'll vote for Ron Paul because he's the only one who has a chance to beat Hillary after the primaries. Unfortunately Hillary has steady votes, but I feel like Gore's candidatures is going to divide Obama's voices.

[murdaLicious]

Ok, peep this :

Taxes aren't bad?

The USA is meant to be a capitalistic states and we're getting 30% of taxes man! They pay the same amount of taxes in Europe.

And do you really enjoy what your governement is doing from your taxes?

I enjoy roads, public education, the post office, and a million other things my taxes go to.  I don't like the fact that it goes to the department of defense as well, but that doesn't make me think taxes are bad.  I'm so sick of people complaining about taxes.  We are so lightly taxed (especially the rich) and we complain about it so much.  We take all the shit our taxes pay for for granted, and complain that we have to put some money towards making the country run.  So get out of here with your pro-rich, right wing, taxes-are-bad attitude.

[tlg4freedom]

So we all understand, Immortal Technique would support someone who is for dismantling the Federal Reserve and abolishing the IRS.  These are enablers of the New World Order.   Ron Paul is really a Conservative Liberatarian, which is for personal freedom and responsability.   Basically for Federal Gov.  staying out of your business.   I don't know about you but I don't want a world government that controls everything in my life.   He's NOT against taxes, he's against the Income Tax. . .

Without freedom all the other shit is irrelevant. . .

[Knight]

So we all understand, Immortal Technique would support someone who is for dismantling the Federal Reserve and abolishing the IRS.  These are enablers of the New World Order.   Ron Paul is really a Conservative Liberatarian, which is for personal freedom and responsability.   Basically for Federal Gov.  staying out of your business.   I don't know about you but I don't want a world government that controls everything in my life.   He's NOT against taxes, he's against the Income Tax. . .

Without freedom all the other shit is irrelevant. . .

Oh yeah as a shareholder of a multinational corporation - of course I love freedom! Freedom to exploit our workers, freedom to pollute the environment, freedom to have those union organisers murdered, freedom to opress the people in whatever way the fuck we want to.

Of course I am in favor of resposibility - I don't want to help the poor, they should get rich themselves, I don't want have protection for opressed minorities, they should protect themselves. I can go on.

By the way. What kind of taxes do you want to have instead of Income Tax? Instead of a Tax that, if progressive, is actually just doesn't enlarge the gap between the rich and the poor?

[tlg4freedom]

If a company pollutes the enviroment or exploits workers then don't work for it or don't buy its products/services.   If they break laws they should be punished.   You have the freedom to disengage from the system that oppresses you by not supporting it.   We can complain about this and that from CorpX but then we go buy their shit. . . what sense does that make?

Do your research on the Federal Reserve/IRS/Income Tax, cuz it's illegal.

Here are some helpful links:
hxxp: video. google. com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
hxxp: tree3. com/861/

[marcos]

So we all understand, Immortal Technique would support someone who is for dismantling the Federal Reserve and abolishing the IRS.  These are enablers of the New World Order.   Ron Paul is really a Conservative Liberatarian, which is for personal freedom and responsability.   Basically for Federal Gov.  staying out of your business.   I don't know about you but I don't want a world government that controls everything in my life.   He's NOT against taxes, he's against the Income Tax. . .

Without freedom all the other shit is irrelevant. . .

Ron Paul is a nationalist anti-immigrant pro-rich republican. Do you really think Tech would vote for him? I'm not saying Tech's opinion is infallible, but saying that he would vote for a scumbag like Ron Paul is ridiculous. I'm sure the white middle class conspiracist crowd have their reasons for voting for him, but Ron Paul does not have the interests of the minorities, the disabled, the elderly, the poor, the environment, or the rest of the world in mind. So fuck him.

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He is anti Illegal Imigrant as everyone except anarchists should be.   How you figure he's pro rich, on what basis?  He's hated by Democrats, Republicans and Corporations.   As for the middle class, at this pace you be reading about them in the history books.   Outsourcing and illegal immigration will do the job.   

Counties and States should manage the issues you raise.   Not the federal government.   It's not the reason why it was formed.   How do you think people managed back in the days. . not by depending on government thats for sure.   Family and community was the solution then and should be the solution now.   Our society is so fucked up that nobody gives a shit about anyone else, so we want government to take the responsibility.   Fuck that, I'll take care of mine.