Azrail
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« on: July 08, 2007, 09:04:23 AM » |
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Hello, this is my first post, and first visit. I will try explain islam as it really should be undertstood.
Sorry for my bad english, but I'm doing my best!
Hello to the non-muslims, and Asalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wabarakatuhu to my brothers and sisters.
Bismillahi Rahman Nerahim!
I would like to share this knowledge with you out there who don't really know about islam and it's essence.
To start with, Islam is not "just another religion" in fact it is not a religion at all!(Will explain this later). Second today religious issues and life philosophy are taken for granted, like a black pants or white pants, like it is non-important.
The man has always been looking for an answer ever since the man was created or to some of you(ateist) "poped-up out of the blue/evolutionist". So the most important issue of all is in fact this basic issue. The question about rathere there is a life after this or not is crucial to us!
Because no matter what you belive there can only be TWO/2 options after death(which is the absolute destination of every living thing). Either there is a life after this, or there isn't VERY simple, one does'nt have to be a Ph. D. to see this! Two foundamental option after this! So either YOU(ateist) is right, or WE(religious people) is right!
Lets have a closer look!
No matter what you are, christian, jews, muslim, buddhist etc. we all agree in one thing, thinking! Thinking can be explained as below:
1. Reality 2. Sense 3. Pre-information 4. Brain
With these four we do create a foundation for our further discussion, every issues/thoughts/fantasies/philosophy which is NOT based in these four criteria has no value!
Example: As you read this text you do know that your monitor is a monitor! How do you know? Because: 1. Monitor is a reality which acts like the core which other 3 steps are based on! Without reality you can not judge upon anything, because there is nothing! 2. You see, "see" is one of your senses, the monitor. 3. You know monitor has a special function, to display, this information was gathered in an earlier stage where you collected this information from first time! 4. Last, you link the reality, the sensing of it, and the judgedment upon it based in earlier information and links it all to the brain. This is thinking devided in "box" demonstration. You do this everyday, but most people can't tell you in this devided form, but once told it is SO OBVIOUS!
Now do a little test, and try remove one of the 4 criteria! And you'll see that thinking is NO MORE, but rather more a fantasy, philosophy etc.
I explain this so you all can see that this issue is within our reach and in this way we keep it "REAL" as hip hop people say! If you move outside these barriers it will become a hypothetic discussion and endless!
When we see in this tangible world we can come up with 3 possible options!
1. Materia is self produced* 2. Materia is perpetual* 3. Materia is created*
Materia is self produced* This options can not be true, because nothing is indicating this AT ALL! ONLY theories, and imaginations! of time line. And everything which has a time line has a start! And if there is a start there is an end! We witness this in everymateria we see! And every effect has a reason. (This is the short version).
Materia is perpetual* This one is famouse, communism tried to lay out of this philosopy by explaining that singular materia is not everlasting but in co-operation/the whole picture of universe then it is! Like water and fire is two contradicting elements together they "create" vapour.
First: Creation is out of NOTHING, and not from an existing thing/materia/reality Second: Communism never argued WHY/WHO determine the properties of the materia. The function that fire and water cause vapour! Second: They have'nt explained this, because this will automatic lead to a "third party/GOD/X-factor". Since the materia has'nt "decided" to work in this way, their act is forced, and can never break outside the law of nature. So this set of law must be applied over them, and not from them! (This is the short version)
Materia is created* Since there is no other than these 3 options this is the last option! And when observing the materia and the universe and every tangible things around our environment this seems to be the most sane option! However this only proove that something created this and not WHO created this. We call it X-Factor.
X-Factor This factor has the same applied reality.
1. It is created* 2. It is selfcreated* 3. It is perpetual*
It is created* If this is true then it is not the ultimate creator which we are looking for! But if this factor is NOT the final then this will automatic lead to another question, which is "what if the creator was created by another and that creator was created by another AGAIN, and so the we never find the first one, because this princip is everlasting, one creating another and so on?"
This can be true, because We are the final proof that we exist, so something must happened! Since something already happend then there must be a start some where! Imagine a billion domino bricks is stading tall. In tall position nothing has happened, and in falled position something is created. Now since we exist, then we know we are one of the brick lied down, and if our creator was created by another and that theory is true, then we would never be here today! Because there is no start, and if there is no start the process will never proceed and reach to our creation! (This part can be hard to understand).
So the first option is not true.
It is self created* This can not be true, because if it created it self, then there was a start, and another question would arise, what was before X-factor/that start? Again no answer, but then again why should there be an answer?(I'll get to this point at last!) So with this point set at standby lets move on to the next point.
It is perpetual This one is the only one who makes sense! Because there isn't a foruth option! This is the finally and the only! Perpetuality has no appearence, because if it had, it had a dimension, and all dimension has an area and necessary made of something/materia, and as we witnessed no materia is perpetual! Asking where X-factor is, is meaningless, because if X-factor could be put somewhere then it is of a certain volume, again making it limited and not perpetual. So therefore possesing the quality of perpetuality requires from the X-factor to be of no form, not senseable, and not located at a given point, and not limited in time! It has no start and it has no end, it is unmeasureable. This is our limit of thinking, we can not move any further, as if we did, step 1 in thinking would be missing, and if reality is missing to sense(step 2) then it is purely fantasy, and philosophy!
When people CAN NOT see X-factor it is a positive thing and not negative! The above is the reason!
Now that we have determine the existent of X-factor and the limitation of materia, see it as the whole universe and its existence is a ball launched and time is running!
THE BIG QUESTION IS, "IS THERE ANYTHING TO CATCH THIS BALL AND REVERSEVERIFY OUR EXPLAINATION OF THE X-FACTOR AND MATERIA WITH A ABSOLUTE PROOF WHICH SATISFY OUR INTELLIGENCE? DID THIS X-FACTOR EVER CONTACTED US AND EVER SENT A GUIDELINE TO US?"
Answer is "yes". But before explaining this it is necessary to understand when it is CLASSIFIED as a PROOF/EVIDENCE!
If X-Factor showed to us, then we would see it, which is not possible because in the process X-factor would limit it self! And what is limited is not perpetual. So the only thing is to re-study the history of the prophets, maybe it is true! Maybe it is a fantasy story for kids! Who know??!
Every time according to the history a man come and declare that he is a prophet, people require a proof/evidence from this person! So when is it classified as proofe/evidence?
Very simple! Since we already know that EVERYTHING can not break the law of nature, we know if something can, it is X-Factor it self! It is IT who put the law of nature over them at the beginning! So of course X-factore can remove it! So show us a evidence who breach a law of nature, miracle! (This was the definition of a miracle).
So we see moses and jesus performing miracles, but once they are gone on this earth the miracle followed with them, and so the next generation is left WITHOUT proof/evidence, and if we don't have evidence then it is UNFAIR to follow! Very simple! It is ABC in authencification!
But what special is Prophet mohammed? Ever since He died, he left a BREACH of the physical law! Still available to you and me to sense!
There was a reason he said that he was the seal of the prophet ship! He left a final evidence which is ever valid to the last day.
The miracle/breach of physical law is in the arabic language! If you have a bit knowledge regarding languages you should know that Classic Arabic IS the richest language ever existed! It is INSANELY describing in a way that almost visualize and make an explanation so real like you were there! A reason X-factor chose the arabic language.
There is 19 category in the arabic languages with 19 difference "flow", retorik and composition! When Quran was revealed it came in this last 20th category! A category never seen before, but still understandable and senseable!!
The essence is, when you write a poem a sentence you have to pick a category to start from! Like a foundation to begin from!
NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, you CAN NOT maintain your sentence(no matter how short it is, and still making sense) with in 1 category! You will automatically merge with others, but still keep a hint of the selected foundation category, so one can still trace which category you used!
Law of nature is within everything! And it is this which is IMPOSSIBLE to break! You CAN NOT keep within 1 category, you will slip into another!
The breach of Quran is that the book is writen in the 20th category, and still all 144 chapters is WITHIN one category!!!! This is insanely! The old jahiliya(non muslim) arabs used to witness that at the FIRST GLANCE they can see it is not a piece of MAN! And still it is senseable to the bare eyes!! "UNBELIEVEABLE AMAZING"!
It is like to see Jesus walk on water and to see Muhammed seperate the moon! A true breach to the law of nature within things, a true evidence, qualified to be called an evidence!
Beside 144 chapter is at the point of APEX all the time in retorik and mode of speech! It is not like a manmade piece where you see elevation and degradation in style/skill, it is CONSTANT, and it is WITHIN 2 category! Even today Oxford University is studying this piece, and wonder "HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THIS BE MADE?"
The most amazing thing is when Quran says: "Gather all your resource to produce one sentence, without the help of the creator, and you can not, and you will not be able to produce one sentence!" This is a miracle WITH challenge to the mankind as a proove of authencity!
In quran one can not ADD, or REMOVE a letter! As soon as you do, you can see a GREAT SHIFT/TWIST in the message, and from the level where it is obvious that the piece is not from man, it will degrade to a level easily seen by the general arab reader! So the book is protected, in its own way! This is the strongest proove I've ever seen personally!! Every time I talk about it I get scared! It is a bit SCARY!
I said I will get back to this in "It is self craeted*" Now this is the reason that there WAS something an dnot end up like the question in "It is self created"!
The existence of GOD/ALLAH/Xfactor is now reverse verified, through a ROCK solid proove which still exist today for you and me! So the ball is catched!
I also said I'l would be back in "islam is not a religion".
Since islam contains ideas (way to treat the mankind) combined with methods(the way of implementing, spreading, and protecting) islam is CLASSIFIED as ideology and not a religion! Islam has economical system, social system, internal/external politic-affairs, punishment system, in fact EVERY ACT OF MAN islam has a Hukm(cannon/law) for it!
And it will NEVER be too old! Since Quran has a mechanism in-built called IJTIHAD (NOT JIHAD) deducing principal through quranic verse it is universal in all time and place for everymand kind, black or white!
This is what I had, as I told you, english is not my strong side, so I really did my best! This is the RAREST but the MOST ORIGINAL explanation of islam you'll ever see! It is based on your intellect and your judgement of environment together with a proove!
Now don't loose your self if you can't read arabic! Do like many others, learn it! Laziness is not an appology!
An interessting thing is also since this is a foundamental discussion and there is only Quran as a proove from X-Factor then it is out-prooving ALOT of many other ideas and philosophies! Because once you have determine 2+1=3 you don't have to investigate that 3-1=2! Once absoluteness is reached it is enough because there can not be 2 truth!
Asalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu!
Posted on: July 08, 2007, 09:50:49 am PS: This explanation is the SHORTEST form. But enough for you to get the essential points!
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