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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2007, 12:06:03 PM »

Not sure, humans have been very destructive in the past few thousand years to our environment but it is not necessarily human nature to be destructive if you look farther back. I have thought about this a lot and I don't have an answer of whether human civilization happened because the right pieces fell into place or it was an inevitable process. I can think of evidence that supports it being inevitable since agriculture didn't just randomly happen but a process that was built on for thousands of years. Even if that is true, I wouldn't consider humans a cancer, just a very destructive species that has adapted well to our environment. We are very similar to foreign species that get moved and take over their new environment if you want a similarity.

Here is a book that explains in great detail what I mean by inevitable:

http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Fates-Societies/dp/0393317552

Here is a book that says it was chance:

http://www.amazon.com/Ishmael-Daniel-Quinn/dp/0553078755/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-4176493-7185739?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192494306&sr=1-1

Quinn gets major influence from Diamond but I have much more trust with Diamond. Quinn has some great ideas but I think he lies and deceives too much to prove a point.
On a universal level, no, nothing matters. On a personal matter, yes, many things matter.
I believe there is no universal purpose of life but you can give yourself purpose.

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We have no more "purpose" than an ant or a lizard.

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every fucking thing about this post is right. from the books you recommended to the links to your own ideas. this man knows what he's talking about. either that, or I'm just being bias because I agree with much of what he said.
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2007, 06:10:28 AM »

Fuck Sat, I was actually writing a song for my band about how life is like a sine wave.....

band? yo whats wit all the underground hiphopas in bands these days.... you best be spittin them lyrics.

yo jus playin man, thats great to hear maybe we can do a collaboration some day, tho strictly break beats for me.

i had actually done this myself too, peaks and troughs happy and sad, frquency is alla bout cycles and repition. shit yo i even incorprated fourier series as that when your life just goes hectic.


sometimes you think you've got lots of porblems, when really accumaletd they just come out to one, and vice versa.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2007, 07:07:34 AM »

Its not a hip-hop band, but jazz/blues influenced experimental indie rock. I am planning on making a rap song though (hence the experimental part).


I'm sure a lot of that happens because how your day is going is heavily determined by your mindset. If a few things start going bad, you become pessimistic, and then you start taking things bad that you wouldn't usually if you were in a good mood. Not getting into that "things are going bad today" mindset is the best thing you can do to stop the snowball effect.
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2007, 05:49:53 PM »

Life is a crime!
All are guilty!
Prepare to be judged!

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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2007, 07:41:46 AM »

i had actually done this myself too, peaks and troughs happy and sad, frquency is alla bout cycles and repition. shit yo i even incorprated fourier series as that when your life just goes hectic.


sometimes you think you've got lots of porblems, when really accumaletd they just come out to one, and vice versa.
Hahaha..I agree. No difference at my side. Wink

As for the initial question:

Answer: Humans are not cancer. A simple answer, but just take a look at your love ones. Now, do humans make errors? Of course, but that certainly isn't promoting homoeostasis akin to cancer cell proliferating.
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2007, 01:56:02 PM »

Humanity destroys nature, and are the cancer of the earth.  It wasn't always that way, but no amount of recycling and conservation is gonna fix what we've done.  We are not in sync with nature, we defy, destroy, and alter it.
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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2007, 02:04:18 PM »

Read Alan Weisman's "The World Without Us".

http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Us-Alan-Weisman/dp/0312347294/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-4259344-2823208?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1194725376&sr=8-1
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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2007, 03:08:07 PM »

Humanity destroys nature, and are the cancer of the earth.  It wasn't always that way, but no amount of recycling and conservation is gonna fix what we've done.  We are not in sync with nature, we defy, destroy, and alter it.
Humans do not seem to be in sync with the environment, but other animals coerce nature to serve their self interests as well, we just take it to another level.
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2007, 04:05:08 PM »

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True, if other animals had the brains of a sapient they would be doing the same.
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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2007, 04:06:48 PM »

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Interesting, any examples??
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« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2007, 04:11:32 PM »

Ants...

Beavers...

Birds...

Basically any animal that builds a shelter.
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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2007, 08:52:25 AM »

1. This is a completely elitist theory that blames the massive environmental destruction of capitalism on the people in general rather than corporations or wealthy nations that contribute the vast majority to environmental destruction and consumerism. The upper-income 20% of the world's population that reside in advanced capitalist nations account for 86% of total private consumption expenditures while the lowest-income 20% of the world's populations accounts for a meager 1.3%. Do the 3-4 billion people, a clear majority of humanity, who lack access to proper nutrition, sanitation, healthcare, education, etc. really contribute to the onslaught of Amazonian rainforests and widespread holes in the ozone layer. Humanity is not a parasite on this planet but the capitalist class is. The highly disproportionate global consumption levels and contribution of corporations to pollution and environmental destruction makes this an easily disproved theory. It is widespread amongst Malthusian bougoriese ideologists who tend to blame the working class for many of capitalism's miserable destructive qualities.

2. There is no absolute, what matters to somebody may not matter to somebody else. It is completely subjective. However, there are a multitude of problems that affect people on a widescale basis and are not considered important to people who should be most focused on them. But as pierce said, on a universal scale the vast problems of the earth mean nothing but we are in the here and now so still have to focus on matters that clearly affect us.

3. In biology are purpose is to carry on the existance of our species. On a social and individual level, we create our own purpose in life so it is also completely subjective.

4. Read above...

There is no moral or philosophical reason why man is here. I agree with piercehawkeye on this as well, evolution has brought our species into existance.

I almost completely agree with you for once Wiseman, this is an entirely elitist mindset and a psychological justification for piece of shit Imperialists to put Aids in vaccines, after their scientists (like the ones who discovered DNA and then think every other idea they have is great) tell them "Brown people are inferior". This is not even about Racism though at its core, it's purely about power, and the "elite" being afraid of the "Third World" industrialising and standing on their own two feet. Because in doing so the monopoly men's monopoly over the world and its resources gets threatened.

The "elite" have also paid for pseudo academic consensuses essentially stating that the world’s population is out of control etc, and that privately they agree "culling" people is a viable “final solution”. This is another demonically despicable fraud though because once a country develops population drops as the old things that used to drive massive population growth (like survival and desperation forcing people to have many children due to high infant morality etc) tend to vanish.

But the "elite" have a boot on the "Third World's" development, which in turn maintains the desperate situations which prompt massive population growth. So the truth is they don't care about "over population", neither do they care about "global warming" or "peak oil" - both which they also use to justify their agenda. All they care about is power and people need to be aware of the manipulations they will use to con otherwise right thinking people into to going along with their private shitty little "vision" for the planet.
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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2007, 11:04:53 AM »

Laugh if you will, but I've been thinking about stuff lately and I would like your input on a few things.


1.  Humanity is a virus, a cancer, completely unnatural to this world.    Yes/No/Inbetween.   Why?

Could a virus/cancer ask itself what it is? My question? Why even ask questions at all? Did the creator give us minds to ask questions or just enjoy what we've got, good or bad grin and bare it & always remember to give thanks no matter what.

2.  Nothing matters.    True/False/Inbetween.   Why?

This question will forever evolve.

3.  The Purpose of Life is. . . .  (in your opinion)

To live & create life.

4.  The Purpose of human beings. . . (in your opinion)

We're just another creation equal to all others.

5.  The reason we are here. . . (in your opinion)

"The Universe created us to figure itself out. "
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2008, 10:23:07 PM »

darkus i have to say this is a good quote

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"The Universe created us to figure itself out. "

i like i like. is it something to do with pantheism? ie switch 'god' for 'the universe'. certainly sounds it.

anyway. for humans to sustain themselves they, we, have to fuck something up somewhere. even the scrict Jain practitioners who refuse to kill bugs which infest their wounds, will be the cause of something being fucked up somewhere, to sustain themselves. so the ultimate act of altruism in that kind of mindset, which i admire of course, would be to kill yourself, so that you are no longer the cause of such sufferings to sustain yourself. Buddhism and other philosophies are rife with stories of sacrifice where , say, the Buddha would take his own life rather than take another to preserve his, ie the hungry tigress jataka.

if you decide to sustain yourself however, i think we can do the best we can do to lessen the damage we to to the environment, and most important other animals whose lives and habitats we impede.
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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2008, 10:10:31 PM »

laugh if you will, but I've been thinking about stuff lately and I would like your input on a few things.


1. Humanity is a virus, a cancer, comepletely unnatural to this world.   Yes/No/Inbetween.  Why?

2. Nothing matters.   True/False/Inbetween.  Why?

3. The Purpose of Life is.... (in your opinion)

4. The Purpose of human beings...(in your opinion)

5. The reason we are here...(in your opinion)
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In your response, if you labeled your answers using 1,2,3, etc, that would be appreiciated.
Thank you.
1. No because the world is meant for humans.
2. Elaborate please.
3.To submit to God and to help humanity the best you can.
4. IDK
5. Through God.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

His biography is hence quite intriguing, to say the least, and, just like the best anti aging cream is probably going to be lingering over the shelves of all cosmetic stores for many years to come, Immortal Technique’s songs are going to remain hot, fresh and sought after for a really long time. Due to the fact they speak about topics which are to be considered taboos, his lyrics continue to be listened to with the exterior shutters down in most homes.

Immortal technique was born in Peru, in El Hospital Militar de Lima; several years later, his family moved to America in order to escape the harsh living conditions in Peru. Even though they could not afford to buy any terrain a vendre there, they managed to move to Harlem in the ‘80s. Immortal Technique went to Hunter High School, but just like a hip replacement recall is never of good omen, his grades and behavior weren’t any good during high school either. He was the school bully, he harassed other students and he was not afraid to get involved in scandals with drug dealers from around the area. And while his interactions with these drug dealers were not as numerous as used cars in Phoenix are, they still managed to leave an ugly mark on his biography.

Plus, his graffiti did not actually resemble any Dreamweaver templates, but he was famous for his controversial acts of vandalism. His violence against others almost got him expelled in 1996, but he somehow managed to finish high school and even attend college at Pennsylvania State University. This time, his college experience only lasted for two years; he was then charged and convicted and he was eventually imprisoned in Pennsylvania.

In prison, just like a SEO San Antonio company would focus on booting a web site’s ranking, Immortal Technique also focused on boosting his own social ranking. He began studying the policy of religious history, and, finding the inspiration he needed, he began putting his thoughts in lyrics. In 1999 he was paroled and, even though he was first considered some sort of Agen Bola, as no one had heard of him at first, he began to attend freestyle battles he started winning.

From there on, his career started to bloom, as he gave birth to albums such as “Revolutionary Vol 1” in 2002, “Revolutionary Vol 2” in 2004 and “Revolutionary Vol 3” in 2008. He also became a political activist and started to sing about political injustice (check out his opinion on the imprisonment of Mumia Abu-Jamal or the songs on George W. Bush). Despite of the fact that his albums might not have gotten the type of positive reviews African mango reviews are usually comprised of, this has not stopped him from getting involved in future projects, including an important film collaboration. He might not approve the work of the CNA Financial Corporation, but we all need to eat, right?




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Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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