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« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2006, 12:07:37 PM »

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Give me some book names and i will add them to my long list of "to read" books lol.

Books- Anything by Richard Dawkins

That's a good one, ever read "God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins?

As for this topic question;

Religion is the opiate of the masses, as Marx once said. I'm sure the world would be a worse place without God/religion for the simple reason that if your life sucks, there's really nothing to live for is there? Well, this whole God and religion can change that and make you believe that your life has meaning (even if it doesn't).

It creates a set of arbitrary guidelines and morals that may or may not be wrong, but can't be proved either way. This is the primary issue I have with it. You can't have a logical discussion with anyone that's very pious. And really, you shouldn't expect to have one. Because religions depend on "faith" more than "reason," no argument based on reason can defeat it, and in the end you will get nowhere.

There's plenty of problems with religion, but as I said it keeps much of the population with some moderate form of contentment so they can keep being sheep in a herd, so what the heck.
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« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2006, 12:33:21 PM »

Books-  Anything by Richard Dawkins
More specifically as to the origins of the Universe: Both of these are by Brian Greene...The Elegant Universe and The Fabric of the Cosmos.  Both are mind blowing and go back to about as near to 0 time as possible (10-36sec or Planck Time)

Will be sure to check them out if I get a chance. There was a Richard Dawkins book i was actually going to buy the other day, so I made get it tomorrow.

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They are two totally and utterly irredeamable things.  One is supernatural and one is wholly natural and mathematical.

Science finds answers to what we don't understand. There will always be things we don't understand, the supernatural. Why can't the scientific answer for these be God?

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So, in essence you believe in a god of the gaps?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

This would be a god whose existence is perpetually shrinking as science eliminates more and more gaps.

I guess that fits in with my beliefs yes. But instead of one disproving the other, i see it more as one moving towards the other. I think that science will ultimately prove this higher power.

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Seeing as no one or no thing has ever gone to the afterlife and been able to replicate their experience it can be seen as an unverifiable belief, most likely a halucination for those who claim to have been there.  There is no evidence of a soul and there is no evidence of an afterlife, absolutely zero.  If there is an essence to mankind, all I ask is for you to SHOW me it and I will become a zelaous believer to the end of my days.  But that is the foundation of supernatural belief, it cannot be verified and is based wholly on faith.  It's funny that eternity is the only thing that rational human beings are willing to trust to faith...everything else that they deal with requires empirical evidence.

Out of body experiences are one thing, but they are yet to be proven. I personally believe that people genuinely have them, especially near death experiences. A friend of our family was brain dead for a short time and remembers hovering above their own body and watching the operation, and recalled things that they couldnt have as they happened when they where brain dead. Your right though, it comes down to faith, but what doesnt?

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They prove that there is evolution and that there was a big bang.  They do not disprove god because god is not their concern.  The evolution of species and the physical inflationary bang that gave rise to all that we see now are what they are concerned with.  Religion tries to fit them into belief structures because the best that they can do is accept a god of the gaps in the face of overwhelming evidence that destroys the idea of an entity that created us and everything.  Also, nothing is static, except the creator, because the creator is eternal... so that creator must be creating all the time...yet we somehow believe that we are eternal or have an eternal essence.  How can we be eternal when the only unchanging thing is god?  Are we god because we change, yet god supposedly does not change because god exists?  If so, then god is   
very seriously fucked up. 

We can be created to be eternal, as much of a contradiction that is lol. Why must the creator be creating all the time? I dont believe we are God but we can connect God or get close to God. I think God is love. God is beauty. God is happyness. God is everything we feel that makes us feel good, and the opposite is the absense of God. Greed, hatred, etc. The big bang, like i said, may just give an explanation as to how God works. As with evolution. How the creator created.

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They have to work as alternatives because one makes claims that cannot be verified outside of faith (god) and the other makes claims that can be verified mathematically or empirically (science).  The two can sometimes mix, yet science seems to almost always come out ahead when dealing with nature.

You say almost always come out ahead. At the times it does not come out ahead - what does?  Wink I guess i see the universe as us on a larger scale. We have spirit (the supernatural), body (The scientific) and mind (the meeting ground, whereas the universe has the physical, the spiritual and God.

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Honestly, and I mean no particular offense, but I think they're bullshit.  I think they were created by man so that man can feel okay and feel special when man is really nothing.  We are infinitesimally small....not even the size of a grain of sand on our planet in our solar system.  That his how meaningless our existence is.  In the face of that, man has created coping mechanisms, first in order to make sense of the unknown, and later in order to make the fact that our existence has no meaning outside what we assign it, less impactful.  I can fully accept that life is a big charrade and that the only things that are important are the things that you MAKE important.  There is no intrinsic value in anything.  It's depressing, but it's honest and I am not afraid of it.  I don't need a soul to feel okay with my life.  I don't need a god to feel connected with all of the organic life on my planet, because we are all linked and my atoms will one day go on to make stars and vice versa.  So in a way, we are horribly alone yet horribly connected.  Matter cannot be created nor destroyed, so in a sense we are immortal, but not in the concious, feel good, exist with awareness kind of way that religious or even spiritual people feel. 

No offense take, its not as much a debate as sharing views.

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All of that stuff was made so that people can feel okay and feel special when they really aren't.  We are all little snowflakes, but who cares?  Nature sure the fuck doesn't. When you die, you will be totally forgotten by 200 years into the future...so everything we have is fleeting.  It makes one feel ok to think that there is some big entity up there looking out for them.  It allows them to turn their eyes on the reality of the very cold and unforgiving world that is wholly indiferrent to your existence.  As Camus said, life is absurd...it takes one with courage to admit that, to admit that he is not special and that there is no god and to make the best of what time he has on the face of the earth, and that he should do his best to live by principles that he finds to be meaningful (if that means lying to yourself through sprituality, then so be it).

Thats quite a pesimistic view. To say youll be forgotten by 200 years is quite obserd in a way, knowing that right now we remembe ALOT, and learn ALOT about the past and what has went before us. Does it take courage to ignore all you cant explain and claim it is insignificant and unprovable, or does it take courage to have faith on something and admit you can never understand it. I think both.

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Also, Camus poses this:  The only question that matters is that of suicide.

That is my phiolsophy...because it is obvious that the world, that people and the universe are indifferent to my existence; it is up to me to look that indifference in the face, dead on and scream back at it until I cannot scream any more.  That is the purpose I have assigned for my life.  No god, nothing special nothing after this little window into conciousness. 

What is conciousness, and what is beyond it? What is the opposite of it, or what do you have when you are in void of it. Nothing? Surely you cannot have nothing.

I will try and get back at more of what you said asap. Its about time i did some schoolwork maybe, lol.
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« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2006, 01:19:57 PM »

If there isnt a God, how did everything come to be? 

If there is no God, how did all of the intricacies of this Earth made?

I firmly believe there is a God, anyone who has read the Bible would understand that.  For those who dont believe in God i have no problem with you and i do not want to argue at all.  I'm glad that everyone has their own views.  But i think i heard somebody say that there is no proof of God or that he exists.......but at the same time you cant prove he doesnt exist either.  To me there is much proof he exists...so anyone who is open-minded and arent sure what to think, hit me up and maybe we can talk about it if you want, maturely.  P.E.A.C.E.
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« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2006, 06:11:25 PM »

If there isnt a God, how did everything come to be? 

If there is no God, how did all of the intricacies of this Earth made?

I firmly believe there is a God, anyone who has read the Bible would understand that.  For those who dont believe in God i have no problem with you and i do not want to argue at all.  I'm glad that everyone has their own views.  But i think i heard somebody say that there is no proof of God or that he exists.......but at the same time you cant prove he doesnt exist either.  To me there is much proof he exists...so anyone who is open-minded and arent sure what to think, hit me up and maybe we can talk about it if you want, maturely.  P.E.A.C.E.

How can you make such provocative statements and not expect someone to disagree. I have read the bible and know there is no evidence for god. I think your point about not arguing goes to another issue that it is hard for people to rationalize and therefore defend their beliefs.
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« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2006, 08:32:15 PM »

So the prediction of the future and the many prophecies in the Bible are jus coincidence?  This Earth jus came to be?  Two comets hit and the Earth jus appeared eh?  Who made the comets then?  A lot of people think its cool to not believe in God because you're "different" or whatever.  And like i said if you dont believe in God thats fine but i never said that you couldnt disagree.  If everyone jus agreed with what i said you'd all be robots obviously. 
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« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2006, 08:36:32 PM »

I am not going to argue if god exists or not. What I am going to argue is this

I firmly believe there is a God, anyone who has read the Bible would understand that.

Those are your words. My conclusion from reading the bible is there is no god and therefore I am a contradiction to your black and white assertion that "anyone who reads the bible would understand that."
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« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2006, 08:46:23 PM »

First I'll state that I'm agnostic. I definately don't believe in a god as a voyeur or a "big beard in the sky", the only thing I could believe in is something like a creative force that isn't conscious as such... or soemthing thats integrated into creation - the universe as one entity viewing itself subjectively.
Personally I think a completely scientific view on god is that it may not exist, then again, it might.
If it does I don't think it's taking part.
Any agrument for why got might exist is around the idea of why else would the universe go to the bother of existing in the first place.

The burden is on the believer to prove that there is a god or a soul.

I also believe that nothing really exists.

Erm, a wee point here, in my opinion your belief that "nothing exists" is no less (and probably more) abstract than a belief in god. While I understand your reasoning, in it you redefine the meaning of the word "existence." Something does not have to be at a state of flux to exist (by most people's definition,) it's existence will simply be momentary. "I am, I exist, at the moment I think it."


but we do know that there was a big bang and that everything extends from it, including us.
Two points on this:
Firstly: The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory, we don't know that there was one, there are several other theories that can explain the genesis of the univese. Furthermore the evidence in support of the Big Bang theory has been deteriorating further and further from credability since it's inception and main stream acceptance. I'll go into some science here upon request tomorrow but I'm tired at the moment.

Secondly: Even if the Big Bang Theory was completely sound as is, it does not preculde the existence of a creator. Nor does it necessitate the existance of one. A lot of scientists used to hate it because they thought a universe with a definite beginning smacked of divine intervention, thats clearly not the case any more.

Also remember that if the Big Thang Theory is true you also have to accept that eventually to come is the heat death of the universe due to the Second Law of Thermodynamics (whether or not you believe in a big crunch this applies, the heat death would happen waaaaaaay before the universe began the trend toward big crunch.) A universe with such a beginning and eventual end is obviously a glimpse (albeit multi-billion-year-long glimpse) in the face of the infinite potential for the length of time, so what happens? Did all this matter just pop out and drift away and then deteriorate towards chaos? and then does is just lie there forever and ever? In the case of the big crunch it all comes back together, maybe it's just a cycle of big bangs and big crunches... ok... I can accept thats a possibility....

But how did that system come about?  Huh I can accept that perhaps it just exists and thats that!
But again I come back to my original position, that perhaps nothing created it and perhaps something did! Each of those options certainly seems possible!

They have mathematically proven the existence of 10 dimensions. 9 space and 1 time. There is another that says there are 11.
I'd like to stress again that this is a theory that hasn't been conclusively proven, it's just one way they've tried to show how things work. I would say it's a very credible theory and I'd say it's probably right, but there could always be a paradigm shift! It's happened so many times before, so I'd be wary of stating the absolute that they're "proved" the existence of those dimensions!

There are no absolutes,
I'd just like to point out that that statement is clearly an absolute and therefor a complete contradiction in terms Tongue
But I see what you mean, eg. The Uncertainty Principle

discliamer: by the way soul link, please don't think I'm "going for you" here by keep quoting you, please just take it as flattery that I found your comments the most interesting and therefor the ones I chose to comment on.

"What was there before the big bang?" Why make up answers to questions? I don't know you don't know and at the moment no one knows or they are keeping it a secret.
Yes, our laws of physics here CEASE TO APPLY at the point of the big band and before it,

If that strikes you an incredable I would add that we already know that there are already theoretical situations when our laws of physics break down:
1) At The Big Bang
2) Black Holes
3) At The Quantum Level

So it's almost certainly possible for the laws of physics to break down and different laws governed its inception.

Out of body experiences are one thing, but they are yet to be proven. I personally believe that people genuinely have them, especially near death experiences. A friend of our family was brain dead for a short time and remembers hovering above their own body and watching the operation, and recalled things that they couldnt have as they happened when they where brain dead.
Now, OBE are something that in the past I would dismiss as utter bullshit, but since then I've discovered there is actually shitloads of evidence to support them, I'll post about that in another thread tomorrow when I'm less tired! I'd rather avoid getting side-tracked on the issue in this thread here though.

Well that was fun, Hope I don't get flamed Tongue
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« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2006, 09:28:42 PM »


"What was there before the big bang?" Why make up answers to questions? I don't know you don't know and at the moment no one knows or they are keeping it a secret.
Yes, our laws of physics here CEASE TO APPLY at the point of the big band and before it,

If that strikes you an incredable I would add that we already know that there are already theoretical situations when our laws of physics break down:
1) At The Big Bang
2) Black Holes
3) At The Quantum Level

So it's almost certainly possible for the laws of physics to break down and different laws governed its inception.



Its ok, if we humans cant explain it all yet, to reiterate my point.
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« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2006, 07:45:42 PM »

haha fuckin indians.. youd think tech would have some intelligent fans but yall still looking for a spook... "is there a god?" haha indiannnnnnnns.... fuck y all savages your worhtless you share the same fate as the devils wake the fuck up or get woke the fuck up... word up..
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« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2006, 07:47:29 PM »

its the god justice brrrrrrat wutup wutup!? blackmans god cipher divine...... gumar oz dubar.
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« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2006, 05:01:30 PM »

haha fuckin indians.. youd think tech would have some intelligent fans but yall still looking for a spook... "is there a god?" haha indiannnnnnnns.... fuck y all savages your worhtless you share the same fate as the devils wake the fuck up or get woke the fuck up... word up..

and you are evidence that tech has straight up dumbass fans.  what is this "fuckin indians" shit?  You're ridiculous.  You always talking about devils and how the white man is evil, but the white man got you demeaning other opressed people - people who have had a much worse fate than you and yours.
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« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2007, 12:33:42 PM »

Yes indeed i believe there is One God and his last messenger to mankind was Muhammad (PBUH).
Watch the movie "The Message" to get a clearer understanding....and read...

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« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2007, 12:36:41 PM »

Yes indeed i believe there is One God and his last messenger to mankind was Muhammad (PBUH).
Watch the movie "The Message" to get a clearer understanding....and read...

Amen

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Watch a movie? What did people do for religious propaganda before movies?
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« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2007, 12:39:26 PM »

YEs there is a God and He's great!!!!

There is something called Intellect... and then theres revelation.... we need the intellect to understand revelation. Hence i have to say that its like we're in a box.. but we have to look outside this box with our hearts to understand revelation. Revelation has been passed down to mankind with books... through prophets ... from the One Source God... so if someone reads what the Bible, The Quran , The Torah, etc have to say... it will open up your eyes and your heart... and this is how i have belief in God...

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« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2007, 12:42:49 PM »

YEs there is a God and He's great!!!!

I am not going to argue with you about gods existence, as it is pointless. What I am going to do is ask you to make better posts than that. Maybe make your statement add some arguments, instead of making baseless comments.
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« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2007, 01:10:23 PM »

Yes, i am once again under the impression there is a God who recognizes there are multiple gods. But He is the most high creator.
Ive talked to God before and on 3 occasions my requests came through.
No i didnt ask for a million dollars or perimission to bomb a country, i asked for very simple things but they must of been important because they were answered and the chance at which they would happen is not measurable but it is low to say the least.

I am under the impression that satan is controlling society and religion, and has the power to pull wool over your eyes no matter who you are.
We all have choice and i am close to choosing the most high creator, due to what some of you may call 'coincedences' and enlightenment.

"In a mans heart is his treasure" So if our treasure is not truth we will continually accept lies because they fit into our lifestyle.
Though I have my questions i feel they are answerable.

I wouldnt even normally write a message like this. But im inspired to do so.
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« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2007, 08:04:00 PM »



The burden is on the believer to prove that there is a god or a soul.

I also believe that nothing really exists.

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Erm, a wee point here, in my opinion your belief that "nothing exists" is no less (and probably more) abstract than a belief in god. While I understand your reasoning, in it you redefine the meaning of the word "existence." Something does not have to be at a state of flux to exist (by most people's definition,) it's existence will simply be momentary. "I am, I exist, at the moment I think it."

but we do know that there was a big bang and that everything extends from it, including us.
Two points on this:
Firstly: The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory, we don't know that there was one, there are several other theories that can explain the genesis of the univese. Furthermore the evidence in support of the Big Bang theory has been deteriorating further and further from credability since it's inception and main stream acceptance. I'll go into some science here upon request tomorrow but I'm tired at the moment.

Secondly: Even if the Big Bang Theory was completely sound as is, it does not preculde the existence of a creator. Nor does it necessitate the existance of one. A lot of scientists used to hate it because they thought a universe with a definite beginning smacked of divine intervention, thats clearly not the case any more.

Also remember that if the Big Thang Theory is true you also have to accept that eventually to come is the heat death of the universe due to the Second Law of Thermodynamics (whether or not you believe in a big crunch this applies, the heat death would happen waaaaaaay before the universe began the trend toward big crunch.) A universe with such a beginning and eventual end is obviously a glimpse (albeit multi-billion-year-long glimpse) in the face of the infinite potential for the length of time, so what happens? Did all this matter just pop out and drift away and then deteriorate towards chaos? and then does is just lie there forever and ever? In the case of the big crunch it all comes back together, maybe it's just a cycle of big bangs and big crunches... ok... I can accept thats a possibility....

But how did that system come about?  Huh I can accept that perhaps it just exists and thats that!
But again I come back to my original position, that perhaps nothing created it and perhaps something did! Each of those options certainly seems possible!

They have mathematically proven the existence of 10 dimensions. 9 space and 1 time. There is another that says there are 11.
I'd like to stress again that this is a theory that hasn't been conclusively proven, it's just one way they've tried to show how things work. I would say it's a very credible theory and I'd say it's probably right, but there could always be a paradigm shift! It's happened so many times before, so I'd be wary of stating the absolute that they're "proved" the existence of those dimensions!

There are no absolutes,
I'd just like to point out that that statement is clearly an absolute and therefor a complete contradiction in terms Tongue
But I see what you mean, eg. The Uncertainty Principle

discliamer: by the way soul link, please don't think I'm "going for you" here by keep quoting you, please just take it as flattery that I found your comments the most interesting and therefor the ones I chose to comment on.

"What was there before the big bang?" Why make up answers to questions? I don't know you don't know and at the moment no one knows or they are keeping it a secret.
Yes, our laws of physics here CEASE TO APPLY at the point of the big band and before it,

If that strikes you an incredable I would add that we already know that there are already theoretical situations when our laws of physics break down:
1) At The Big Bang
2) Black Holes
3) At The Quantum Level

So it's almost certainly possible for the laws of physics to break down and different laws governed its inception.

Out of body experiences are one thing, but they are yet to be proven. I personally believe that people genuinely have them, especially near death experiences. A friend of our family was brain dead for a short time and remembers hovering above their own body and watching the operation, and recalled things that they couldnt have as they happened when they where brain dead.
Now, OBE are something that in the past I would dismiss as utter bullshit, but since then I've discovered there is actually shitloads of evidence to support them, I'll post about that in another thread tomorrow when I'm less tired! I'd rather avoid getting side-tracked on the issue in this thread here though.

Well that was fun, Hope I don't get flamed Tongue
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Well, you'll probably get flamed over the "evidence" for OBE...otherwise, you bring up good reasons why one should be an agnostic.
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« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2007, 09:50:30 PM »

Physicists have begun to believe that the universe may have been created to accomodate us. The anthropic principle says that if the universe evolved slightly different and universal constants such as the gravitational constant or the speed of light differed slightly from the values (like if the difference in mass from a proton and neutron was slightly smaller than it is then atoms would not exist) that they are that life and possible the universe may not exist 
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« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2007, 09:56:38 PM »

Physicists have begun to believe that the universe may have been created to accomodate us. The anthropic principle says that if the universe evolved slightly different and universal constants such as the gravitational constant or the speed of light differed slightly from the values (like if the difference in mass from a proton and neutron was slightly smaller than it is then atoms would not exist) that they are that life and possible the universe may not exist 

Who are these "physicists" you speak of?
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« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2007, 10:00:23 PM »

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Physicists have begun to believe that the universe may have been created to accomodate us. The anthropic principle says that if the universe evolved slightly different and universal constants such as the gravitational constant or the speed of light differed slightly from the values (like if the difference in mass from a proton and neutron was slightly smaller than it is then atoms would not exist) that they are that life and possible the universe may not exist
Why is life so important? Why wouldn't other forms of organism be formed? Why is life anything in the grandscheme of things? So what if it evolved differently something would still be there and if that something could reason it would say the same thing it really means absolutely nothing if you think about it.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

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Immortal technique was born in Peru, in El Hospital Militar de Lima; several years later, his family moved to America in order to escape the harsh living conditions in Peru. Even though they could not afford to buy any terrain a vendre there, they managed to move to Harlem in the ‘80s. Immortal Technique went to Hunter High School, but just like a hip replacement recall is never of good omen, his grades and behavior weren’t any good during high school either. He was the school bully, he harassed other students and he was not afraid to get involved in scandals with drug dealers from around the area. And while his interactions with these drug dealers were not as numerous as used cars in Phoenix are, they still managed to leave an ugly mark on his biography.

Plus, his graffiti did not actually resemble any Dreamweaver templates, but he was famous for his controversial acts of vandalism. His violence against others almost got him expelled in 1996, but he somehow managed to finish high school and even attend college at Pennsylvania State University. This time, his college experience only lasted for two years; he was then charged and convicted and he was eventually imprisoned in Pennsylvania.

In prison, just like a SEO San Antonio company would focus on booting a web site’s ranking, Immortal Technique also focused on boosting his own social ranking. He began studying the policy of religious history, and, finding the inspiration he needed, he began putting his thoughts in lyrics. In 1999 he was paroled and, even though he was first considered some sort of Agen Bola, as no one had heard of him at first, he began to attend freestyle battles he started winning.

From there on, his career started to bloom, as he gave birth to albums such as “Revolutionary Vol 1” in 2002, “Revolutionary Vol 2” in 2004 and “Revolutionary Vol 3” in 2008. He also became a political activist and started to sing about political injustice (check out his opinion on the imprisonment of Mumia Abu-Jamal or the songs on George W. Bush). Despite of the fact that his albums might not have gotten the type of positive reviews African mango reviews are usually comprised of, this has not stopped him from getting involved in future projects, including an important film collaboration. He might not approve the work of the CNA Financial Corporation, but we all need to eat, right?




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The History and Growth of Rap Music

If you are a music enthusiast, then it is very likely that you have come across a genre of music called rap music. Rap music is area that has very clear distinguishing features most notably the rapid and rhythmic chanting of the lyrics perfectly timed to the beat and musical accompaniment that forms the base of the song. Rap music traces its roots to the development of the hiphop subculture which predominantly carries four complementary musical styles namely: rapping, dancing and in particular break dancing, scratching or more popularity known as DJing, and graffiti writing which others dub as vandalism. Another sub-element of this genre is beat-boxing which also features heavily in the repertoire of many rap artists. If you thought this was an easy musical genre to characterize, then you were poorly informed: consider, many research papers and doctoral dissertations have been written on the subject of rap music and its accompanying stylistic elements.

The history of rap music, or hip-hop music, is composed of a series of rapid development phases that have all culminated in the popular rap versions of today. Before rap music took off in the 1990s, it was predominantly referred to as disco rap in the late 1970s. The three rappers who had a hand in coining the term “rap music” were DJ Hollywood, Lovebug Starski, and Keith Cowboy, the last one being officially credited with the term hip-hop. Rap music original began with improvisations and freestyle singing to add an element of unpredictability to the songs in parties and other gatherings. Even in the 1960s to 1970s, the initial elements of rap music where already sown in urban subcultures particularly in New York City where adhoc performances in the streets led to a coalescing of influences in the wake of the Civil Rights era. Like the iPhone 5 release date, it had a slow and steady rise building into an explosion of creativity and style that has made it into what it has become today.

At this very early stage of rap development, it was particularly tied to emcee-ing more than it was associated to any specific song. It predominantly tied songs together as an adlib in between. It was born out of the creative inputs of DJs who had to work with self-imposed musical constraints such as the 4/4 time beat and sampling or sequencing sections of other songs to create a smooth flow of uninterrupted musical stimuli. These were eventually married with electronic equipment such as drums and synthesizers, and ultimate melodies to give it that bite and identity. In a sense, rap music artists were basically like a video game designer who had to figure out each artistic component at every turn until it developed into a more coherent musical genre that became the rap music we know today.

The first recorded version of rap music came alive in the early 1980s when DJs decided to make records out of their freestyle MCing. This necessitated the documentation of song lyrics so they do not change during each and every rendition. The age of the stromanbieter for rap music was gone paving the way for more organized chaos. Still, the freestyle and improvisation element remained a part of many DJ interludes as the song goes through certain sections that did not require too much rap singing.

Likewise, as a consequence of the hip-hop records, the influence of rap began to spread faster than ever before. Artists no longer had to travel far to get their music heard. Now, records from New York City and Philadelphia can be reproduced and transported to cities like Los Angeles, New Orleans, Dallas, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., and Seattle among others for people to appreciate and enjoy. This was primarily the reason for rap music’s rapid growth. Like Christmas mini lights, cities formed the nodes through which rap music would spread to other parts of the country. From small beginnings to grand achievements, the birth certificate translation to true stardom took a matter of years for rap music to be realized. Since then, its take-off and rise has been meteoric.

In this regard, it is almost impossible to talk about rap music but not discuss the golden age of rap. This was the era from the late 1980s to the mid 1990s when rap grew at an astounding rate fueled by the creative contributions of many artists from all over the continental United States and in many parts of the world. The primary trait of the Golden Age or Rap was that it was an almost unbroken wave of transformative music with every single pushing the boundaries of the genre. From this age and in the succeeding Gansta Rap age came names like Run-D.M.C., Dr. Dre, Ice T, MC Hammer, The Wu-tang Clan, Snoop Dogg, and The Notorious B.I.G. among others. The list of names can virtually fill a Sharepoint Hive without any problems.

According to social studies published in 2005, teenagers and children are more familiar with hip-hop and rap music more than any other musical genre. Up to 65% of all children from ages 8 to 18 hear hip-hop music on a daily basis, making it their routinary keratin hair treatment session, almost to the point that it has become an intrinsic part of their lives. With the diversification of the genre to include the more stylish R&B or rhythm and blues, it is not difficult to explain how rap music has continued to pervade radio station, TV and movie song line-ups. The marriage of rap and jazz which paved the way for R&B is itself a phenomenon that warrants all sorts of social analysis.

And with its very strong following, it is safe to say that rap music is here to stay. Years from now, when you open your TV on a bright Saturday morning, there’s a big chance you would be watching the next stage in the evolution of rap music, and there’s an even better chance you would be dancing or singing to that tune.

Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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