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« Reply #600 on: August 22, 2007, 05:29:17 PM »

Anybody here read a book called "The Atheists' Bible"? It's basically just a collection of quotes, so it's not really a "bible" by any means. Anyway, there's some great quotes in there, like:

"Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species representing changes through time. Taxonomy shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together. Creationism is the practice of squeezing one's eyes shut and wailing "Does not!"

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"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty."

- Albert Einstein

"The Bible. That is what fools have written, what imbeciles command, what rogues teach, and young children are made to learn by heart."

- Voltaire

"Praying is like a rocking chair -- it'll give you something to do, but it won't get you anywhere."
- Gypsy Rose Lee

"There ain't no answer. There ain't going to be any answer. There never has been an answer. That's the answer."
- Gertrude Stein
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« Reply #601 on: August 22, 2007, 07:14:23 PM »

Relligious people are not selfish. Name 1 atheist who is a philanthropist? Im just saying it seems unfair that evil and good people have the exact same fate.
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« Reply #602 on: August 22, 2007, 07:24:03 PM »

Name 1 atheist who is a philanthropist?

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« Reply #603 on: August 22, 2007, 07:29:03 PM »

Can you say tax breaks? Being a good person is not all about money, how superficial. Who said anything about fairness? If you think the world is "fair", I've got some more pie you might want a slice of.
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« Reply #604 on: August 22, 2007, 07:49:59 PM »

Relligious people are not selfish. Name 1 atheist who is a philanthropist? Im just saying it seems unfair that evil and good people have the exact same fate.

Are you accusing me and a lot of others on this board for example of being selfish and not caring about others? I'm not sure if I get you.
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« Reply #605 on: August 22, 2007, 08:36:53 PM »

Relligious people are not selfish. Name 1 atheist who is a philanthropist? Im just saying it seems unfair that evil and good people have the exact same fate.

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Atheist Wilson Gives $22.5 Million for Catholic Fund (Update2)

By Patrick Cole

May 23 (Bloomberg) -- Philanthropist and retired hedge-fund manager Robert W. Wilson said he is giving $22.5 million to the Archdiocese of New York to fund a scholarship program for needy inner-city students attending Roman Catholic schools.

Wilson, 80, said in a phone interview today that although he is an atheist, he has no problem donating money to a fund linked to Catholic schools.

``Let's face it, without the Roman Catholic Church, there would be no Western civilization,'' Wilson said. ``Shunning religious organizations would be abhorrent. Keep in mind, I'm helping to pay tuition. The money isn't going directly to the schools.''

Wilson's donation is the largest the archdiocese has ever received. The money will be used to fund the Cardinal's Scholarship Program, which was started in 2005 to give disadvantaged students attending the archdiocese's inner-city schools partial or full tuition grants, Jacqueline LoFaro, the archdiocese's associate superintendent of schools, said in a phone interview today.

``It was a chance for a very modest amount of money to get kids out of a lousy school system and into a good school system,'' Wilson said.

An anonymous donor has given an additional $4.5 million to the archdiocese after learning that Wilson's gift would be announced today, church officials said.

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Edward Cardinal Egan, the head of the archdiocese, didn't reconsider the donation from Wilson because of his atheism, said spokesman Joseph Zwilling. Egan and Wilson, who was raised an Episcopalian, met for the first time today, he said.

``The Cardinal said that he and Mr. Wilson are both opera lovers, and the two of them will get together to talk about opera and `move on to other things,''' Zwilling said, referring to a future discussion about religion. ``The fact is that Mr. Wilson helping to give these children a chance is a good thing, and a chance to attend Catholic school is a good thing.''

In recent years, the New York archdiocese has faced declining donations, church attendance and parish memberships, forcing the closure of some schools and churches.

In 2006, the archdiocese closed eight metropolitan-area schools, Zwilling said.

About 44,000 of the archdiocese's 107,000 students are enrolled in its inner-city schools in New York, LoFaro said. Of that inner-city student population, more than half live below the federal poverty line, she said.

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``This kind of money will keep this kind of education available for kids who can't afford it,'' LoFaro said. ``And it logives the families a choice.'' Applicants don't have to be Roman Catholic to be eligible for the scholarships.

Wilson gave $147.2 million in 2006 to charities, making him the 12th most generous donor in the U.S., according to a survey by the Chronicle of Philanthropy. He has made gifts in the past to the Nature Conservancy and the World Monuments Fund.

Wilson started has career at First Boston Corp. as a trainee after graduating from college and spending two years in law school. He managed money from the late 1940s until he started a small hedge fund in 1968. He turned his initial $15,000 in investment into about $200 million. He invested in stocks that he expected to rise in value and also sold stocks short -- selling borrowed securities in the expectation their prices would decline and he could buy them back cheaper.

Opera, Modern Art

A former chairman of the New York City Opera, Wilson is on the board of the Whitney Museum of American Art. In an interview with the Associated Press in 2006, Wilson said he wants to give away 70 percent of his more than $500 million in assets before he dies.

With Wilson's donation, the archdiocese's scholarship fund has raised $97 million of the program's $158 million goal. LoFaro said the archdiocese wants to raise the remaining money by 2010 in order to fund 11,700 scholarships.

``This is a good time for donors to recognize the good work that we do,'' LoFaro said. ``Catholic education has long been recognized as being particularly successful in reaching at-risk, inner-city children.''

To contact the reporter on this story: Patrick Cole in New York at pcole3@Bloomberg.net .
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« Reply #606 on: August 23, 2007, 09:16:26 AM »

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« Reply #607 on: August 23, 2007, 12:14:28 PM »

i'm an atheist and if i dont need something that someone does, fuck it i give it em. i dont need it, nahmean?
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« Reply #608 on: August 23, 2007, 12:53:53 PM »

Are you accusing me and a lot of others on this board for example of being selfish and not caring about others? I'm not sure if I get you.
Please stop twisting my words. If you are not a philanthropist how the fuck does that make you selfish.
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« Reply #609 on: August 23, 2007, 01:01:12 PM »

Please stop twisting my words. If you are not a philanthropist how the fuck does that make you selfish.

You said there are no atheist philanthropists, and asked someone to name one. I did, now for my reward for searching this information out I would like a response, please.
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« Reply #610 on: August 23, 2007, 02:43:36 PM »

Please stop twisting my words. If you are not a philanthropist how the fuck does that make you selfish.

I'm sorry - I don't get what you mean and I think it's because I misunderstood words like philanthropist so I'm gonna shut up about it now.

Please adress the article JC posted.
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« Reply #611 on: August 23, 2007, 03:40:37 PM »

You said there are no atheist philanthropists, and asked someone to name one. I did, now for my reward for searching this information out I would like a response, please.
Ok sorry i shouldnt have gone down that road I should have said most philanthropist are relligious and relligious people are nto selfish. How is doing something for the good of humanity and God selfish. Thats the point of doing it and if evil and good people are just given the same fait it just wouldnt make sense to me.
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I'm sorry - I don't get what you mean and I think it's because I misunderstood words like philanthropist so I'm gonna shut up about it now.

Please adress the article JC posted.
LOL didnt you learn that in like 8th grade.
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« Reply #612 on: August 23, 2007, 04:02:55 PM »

Ok sorry i shouldnt have gone down that road I should have said most philanthropist are relligious and relligious people are nto selfish. How is doing something for the good of humanity and God selfish. Thats the point of doing it and if evil and good people are just given the same fait it just wouldnt make sense to me.
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LOL didnt you learn that in like 8th grade.

Less than 10 % of the people in the US are atheist. That means 90 % are religious. Now you tell me why I live in the most greedy capitalist and violent country the world has seen? Is it because the approx 3,000,000 atheists or is it because the approx 297,000,000 religious people?
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« Reply #613 on: August 23, 2007, 04:13:16 PM »

Ok sorry i shouldnt have gone down that road I should have said most philanthropist are relligious and relligious people are nto selfish. How is doing something for the good of humanity and God selfish. Thats the point of doing it and if evil and good people are just given the same fait it just wouldnt make sense to me.
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LOL didnt you learn that in like 8th grade.

The only source I have is my dictionary. It says philantropist is somebody who likes human beings Cheesy. I guess I'm gonna look up definitions.

As for doing something "for God" being selfish. You said yourself that good deeds apparently are done to avoid - for example - going to hell. That's selfish. It is doing something because it will help yourself. Atheists who do the same thing are not selfish, because they do it without expecting to be rewarded for it. Don't you see the logic?
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« Reply #614 on: August 23, 2007, 08:24:36 PM »

Utility.  One can make a strong argument that EVERYTHING we do is based on utility.  That is irrelevant of god.  You do good because you derive some level of utility from it.  The same for bad.  On some level, something in your mind derives utility from your actions, even if they are seemingly self-destructive. 
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« Reply #615 on: August 23, 2007, 08:29:08 PM »

Can someone explain this quote:

``Let's face it, without the Roman Catholic Church, there would be no Western civilization,'' Wilson said.
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« Reply #616 on: August 23, 2007, 08:35:31 PM »

The Roman Catholic Church was the main organizing force for most of the post-roman period of European history.  Had it not organized armies to fight westward moving Muslims, there is a good chance that Europe would have been converted to Islam today.  It was the single most important keeper of western knowledge, thought and science for more than 1500 years. 
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« Reply #617 on: August 23, 2007, 08:39:17 PM »

I get the religion aspect of it but what role did the church play in terms of science, knowledge and "development"?
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« Reply #618 on: August 23, 2007, 08:45:03 PM »

China never had a centralised or organised religion.
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« Reply #619 on: August 23, 2007, 08:53:14 PM »

http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods40.html

Like any massive institution, the RCC was an incredibly mixed bag.  It sowed genocide, enslaved and oppressed, but many of the members of that institution (monks in particular) did a great deal to further science.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

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Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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