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« on: November 19, 2007, 04:51:12 PM »

I QUIT........

You see I got into rap a very very long time ago, I didnt do it to become rich, I didnt do it to become famous, I did it because it was a way for me to vent about the bad things that were happening around me, It was therapy for me so to speak.....Ive realized now that sooo many people have gotten into Hip Hop, whether the business aspect or otherwise, its not really for me anymore...First of all, people need to know that I am a contraversial person period, before I ever was in a magazine, on T.V. in a studio, I was very very deep in the street shit..Contraversy has always followed me, Its unfortunate but it is what it is...Its my life...I dont try to start shit to cause contraversy, its the media, the press and yall who eat off contraversy who start the shit, try to make me look wild or out of control when Im just being who I am. Everybody is like, 'OMG how is gonna show up to a radio station drunk', hahaha, Im a rebel, I done showed up to court drunk facing 15 years and yall talking about a radio show.. This is the bullshit, hahaha its funny how people listen to all these rappers talk about all these guns they bust and being in the trap and hustling, and everybody loves the music and celebrates it, the second he gets caught up in some of the shit he was rapping about, everybody is talking about how stupid he is and all this shit.. ...I cant take turning on a computer and seeing my name being thrown around in all kinds of ways, Its not good for me, and not good for these writers, I am accident prone for life, I will take a page out of the Wu Tang book and beat the shit outta one of yall niggaz man, youre playing with fire.. Should I post my rap sheet on the internet to remind yall , Im not a fucking studio thug man, ... I never signed up for this so Im stepping away from this fake shit.....I did a interview on Shade45, the interview was 2 hours long mind you, we talked about EVERYTHING from what we need to do as a people to get on track to economizing and everything but you know whats on all the so called media outlets in boldface as the headline, 'Saigon Disses Whoever'...You know what part of a 2 hr interview people replay? Me saying something about someone...If I woulda said, Ill slap John Hardy Hawkins for his role in the Slave trade, they would never put it in boldface or re run it 1000 times, but If I say Ill slap a rapper or something, Its the headline news of the day....Thats ass backwards to me so Im done. I dont like not being able to speak my mind without some fucking clown being able to make a story out of it because Im a "rapper" and "rappers" shouldnt say those things....hahahah I didnt sign up for this..No more interviews, no more mixtapes, no nothing....Im not a rapper anymore, Im done.. Im back to being regular me...This shit is too fake for me, I found myself getting caught up in the bullshit but now Ill gladly walk away...These people are so predictable that to prove to my niggas who would say my buzz was dying or whatever, I would say 'oh yeah', watch this, then for fun, I would just do an interview and make a comment about someone because I knew they would run back like little bitches who instigate something to get the people talking. Then walah, my buzz is back, (nevermind the 10 great new songs i wouldve just put out)..But its not fun anymore...I look at the Prodigy incident, that started not because of anything but these media outlets...He told me to suck his dick in an INTERVIEW..Then it becomes physical, we both coulda got shot, stabbed or even killed...Had I been with my crew somebody wouldve died in there all over something that started in an INTERVIEW. You got this other guy throwing my name around on T.V. now thats going to get physical, Then watch, the same people who instigated it will be talking about how senseless we are..I dont give a fuck if nobody ever does a story on me again..I dont rap anymore, I dont need it anymore... I no longer have to keep pretending to be a certain way to care about a radio spin, or an interview, so I can address these people when I see them like I BEEEEN wanting to, and thats unbiased. NO MORE ASS KISSING FOR ME. All of that trying to be politically correct bullshit is just that, bullshit..There is no honor amongst theives...Now I can say what the fuck I want, when I want, however the fuck I want without people feeling like they have the right to ridicule me, judge me and talk slick about me because I have this title "Rapper" attached to my name, or because Im a "Rapper" who supposed to know how to talk to these media people who really dont give 2 fucks about hip hop or black culture period. How many of these outlets are owned by black people anyway? I know alot of people dont give a fuck about me stepping away, some people might but so what, its a wrap...Some people will say I was wack, I never had punchlines or funny metaphores , but that wasnt my thing anyway....I left enough great music behind for people to understand I was good at rapping, thats all I ever wanted out of it, But now Im back on my bullshit...I have no KIDS, I have nothing to lose..My reason for ever taking it to this level in the first place was to use the music to to try to get black people out of the stages of deaf, dumb and blindness and that was a fight I probably couldve never won anyway...I wouldve given my life trying to save my people and died in vein like alot of people did.. Oh, and to that rapper thats throwing my name around, U must be retarted or like hospital food or something, we have BEEF homie, not rap beef, beef beef I have no more to say about that, its a small world, Ill see him...Fuck this bum ass rap game anyway, its full of fake ass niggaz who pump poison to the kids, make a few dollars and act like theyre larger then life when they know their music is detrimental to their fucking communities, If it aint about sex, its about drugs or violence, where are the songs about getting an eduacation, or being responsible parents and shit, or stopping the Gang Violence...This shit is sickening...........SAIGON IS DEAD...Should I say Ill slap a rapper so they run and put it in all their news section and gossip columns..Okay Ill slap the shit outta EVERY Rapper hows that....I QUIT, Now I have time to focus on my non profit organazation, In Arms Reach/Abandoned Nation, Please if you get the chance, check out Inarmsreach.org and lend your support to the work we do for the children in NYC whose parent(s) are incarcerated, Thank You now I gotta figure out how Im gonna break this to Just Blaze......THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD....hahahahahahaha PROPHECY
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 05:05:20 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 05:09:03 PM »

This man has an incredible gift but it seems like he's letting the system he's been fighting against finally get the best of him. I know you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes and expect to understand what they're going through but i do hope he reconsiders cause he has a very strong fan base that listens to him for the message.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2007, 05:13:23 PM »

lol @ his album title. He should have learned about naming your albums from Biggie. I guarantee he'll eventually release his album.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2007, 05:16:46 PM »

Justin will talk him out of it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2007, 11:45:58 PM »

lol @ his album title. He should have learned about naming your albums from Biggie. I guarantee he'll eventually release his album.
Justin will talk him out of it.

I hope so cause his true fans know he aint this cardboard cut out studio thug tryna start beefs for record sales and shit. He has strong messages on his politically based songs so instead of letting this industry BS get to him he needs to GET AT the industry and go hard at 'em.
Posted on: November 19, 2007, 05:28:59 pm
I think once the stress settles down he'll be ready to go again lol this is just like a venting out moment without having to actually stomp somebody out.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 12:31:17 AM »

http://www.zshare.net/audio/493771956d596b/

LMAO he's mad funny hahahah!
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 04:30:04 AM »

i quit....can't believe he actually wuitting though, i'm just wondering why doesn't he switch it to IT style and do everything on his own. i'm sure he got the manpower and most probably a lot of people would cop his shit.

it's just sad to see him say he's leaving, but i understand how mainstream media isn't something you can get into without selling out...i guess he's not that type of guy.

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 05:07:20 AM »

Shit, I can't believe it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 11:34:17 AM »

Saigon was getting popular with a good message and talent (rare in the mainstream).
Sucks that he chose to quit now.

Now Prodigy will be talking shit saying that Saigon quit because of him.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 02:37:47 PM »

I agree with a lot of the shit he said, but I think he's too sensitive about it, he should really try the underground like IT or stay putting out mixtapes, like he did, he should stay making music, period, this shit is depressing, I guess state of the rape game and the way everything other than talent matters is depressing...
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 04:06:36 PM »

Damn wtf @ Sai on this Shade45 interview, he went in there all fuckin bent and then he lets these bitches get to him tryna make him contradict himself and shit.

Not a good look for Sai'. Kinda played himself but then again you should never go to an interview all drunk.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 05:37:11 PM »

this is weird as hell only last night did i start really jamming to hes shit i downloaded like 15 of his songs yesturday and i really love it all hell be back tho
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2007, 04:57:36 PM »

Yea i mean since i didn't know he was bent during that interview it could've just been the liquor and fraustration build up that made him vent on the blog.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2007, 01:33:23 PM »

We’ve got some good news for Saigon and Tru Life fans. The album the two MCs planned to record together is still on.

“Basically we never stopped working on the project,” Tru Life told HipHopGame. “We got about 6 songs in and we’re definitely going to finish it up. Me and Saigon spoke about it. We had fun doing that. It’s not no label shit so there’s no pressure and no stress about this industry shit. We’re just recording and having fun. We’re not really caring about politics or nothing else. We’re not worrying about release dates or marketing. It’s just us not giving a fuck, making music and shooting it out to the world.”

More on this as it develops.


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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2007, 03:54:59 PM »

Should be a dope album, good look on the news.
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2007, 12:19:41 PM »

Damn Saigon Was Good But He Was At A Lost, He Losin Money By Puttin Out CD's Cause They Don't Sell.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

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The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

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