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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2007, 06:29:53 PM »

I'm salty.

I like how SanPat is now the authority on the appropriateness of white people saying nigger.

If only I was, these are all my opinions, but some of the responses are making me lol
Listen to it, I think its on his myspace.

Yeah I was about to go listen to that three hours ago but then my sister-in-law came over and I kind of had to help her clean.
i only agree with

and yeah, eminem did make a racist song, but he's apologized for it numerous amounts of times
people mature, get over it.

Personally I don't see why anyone should have anything wrong with number two. 


Theo, I'll give a complete response to your post later
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2007, 07:15:35 PM »

Personally I don't see why anyone should have anything wrong with number two. 


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no, i pray to god that you are not serious. This better be a fucking joke thread. If you are serious, i've lost respect for you. The fact that you can sit there and segregate something is bullshit. Why the fuck should (white) rappers have rules just to be in rap? Why does it matter if there's one black family, or no black families in a town? I'm lyrical (yea you guys dont see it cuz, i dont post anywhere near my strongest poems/songs on here) so why the fuck should i be like "oh i can write, well, im white, so i can't rap." that's the most fucked up skewed view i have on rap.

like Drizzle said, soulja boy can be 16 and make some shitty ass music, and thats fine, but when i was 17, i didnt live near any cities, i cant pic up a mic and speak poetry, or political talk? That makes no fucking sense.
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2007, 08:25:52 PM »

This is some racist bullshit.


Do redneck fucks make lists of rules for black dudes doing country music or punk or hard rock??? Anyone can do whatever the fuck they want and if it's shit ... they'll get told.
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2007, 09:10:39 PM »

This reminds me of the time Kanye West made that list of things he said white people weren't allowed to say after he went on his Bush rant.

This is what he said.

 He says, "I think white people are allowed to say 'bling'. They are allowed to say old-school black slang, like 'hottie' and 'homie'.

"Actually, I do not think that (white people) are allowed to use slang until it is at least a year old. If you say a slang word too early, it's like you're trying to be black. So as long as the slang is a little played out, you're all good."


lol how ridiculous

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This sounds just like San Pat.
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2007, 09:30:15 PM »

I'm white and I'm really not offended. San Pat is white and is not offended (by himself.. I hope). I think really no white person should be offended at all. This is not racism. No person on earth is discriminated becaus of things like this.
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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2007, 09:39:39 PM »

So you find nothing unfair or discriminatory about you having to live in a certain area and be a certain age to rap as opposed to all other races?
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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2007, 09:48:31 PM »

I'm white and I'm really not offended. San Pat is white and is not offended (by himself.. I hope). I think really no white person should be offended at all. This is not racism. No person on earth is discriminated becaus of things like this.

that's because you're a sellout
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2007, 09:54:14 PM »

"WHITEYS SHALL PAY!"
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2007, 09:59:33 PM »

God this thread worked out SO WELL, I've never laughed so hard in my life
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2007, 10:02:14 PM »

God this thread worked out SO WELL, I've never laughed so hard in my life

so you made this as a joke? 

see, this is what i dont get. If i made (like setut said) a thread about how black country singers should act, im sure Jihad would throw a hissy fit
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2007, 10:07:48 PM »

making tourists feel awkward is hilarious
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2007, 10:07:58 PM »

If i made (like setut said) a thread about how black country singers should act
Why would you want to?  Even tho I defended you on the other issue, I don't see any double standard here.  
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2007, 10:08:48 PM »

When Knight came in and said he wasn't offended I was about to throw in the towel and watch how this would unfold without my input.
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2007, 10:13:12 PM »

see, this is what i dont get. If i made (like setut said) a thread about how black country singers should act, im sure Jihad would throw a hissy fit

See African music is rooted in the beginnings of country music, White people in rap, not so much
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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2007, 10:14:45 PM »

When Knight came in and said he wasn't offended I was about to throw in the towel and watch how this would unfold without my input.
INput ya input then!!!
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2007, 10:16:33 PM »

I'm just glad San Pat wasn't 100% seriouse.
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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2007, 10:17:42 PM »

"And just so you know, white rappers are oppressed"

Funniest line of the thread

By the way, I am half serious with this thread
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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2007, 10:29:53 PM »

"And just so you know, white rappers are oppressed"

Funniest line of the thread

By the way, I am half serious with this thread

right, well, you know what san pat? you take a fucking bat upside your fucking forehead for being a white rapper and then come to me and tell me otherwise. I've lost count of how many times i've been jumped because i am a white rapper, or because ive beaten somebody in a battle

like i said, its nothing to flip out over, but its not something to be overlooked (like, im not gonna start a white rappers union) but its hard as fuck to be even remotely accepted into any hip hop community if youre white.

My view is ignore the color and see the whack, but you seem to think any black person can rap (stereotype, no?) but white people need to have fucking standards when it comes to the culture...fuck you
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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2007, 10:34:02 PM »

this thread is lowest of the low
no joke

sanpat, you're cool as shit, but put the alex haley book down for a bit
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« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2007, 10:36:22 PM »

so you made this as a joke? 

see, this is what i dont get. If i made (like setut said) a thread about how black country singers should act, im sure Jihad would throw a hissy fit

why bring Jihad into this?
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