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« on: December 08, 2007, 04:14:56 PM »

Critics of Scientology say its views are too "black and white"
Germany's federal and state interior ministers have declared the Church of Scientology unconstitutional, clearing the way for a possible ban.

The ministers have asked Germany's domestic intelligence agency to examine whether the Church's legal status as an association could be challenged.

Scientology is not recognised as a religion in Germany.

A Church spokesman in Berlin said the move was a reaction to the increasing acceptance of Scientologists in Europe.

"It is very, very clear that the true picture of what Scientology is about is pushing its way through. The interior ministers are clearly reacting to that," said Sabine Weber, president of the Church of Scientology in Berlin.

Critics accuse the organisation of cult-type practices and exploiting followers for financial gain.

But Scientologists reject this and say that they promote a religion based on the understanding of the human spirit.

Cult-type practices

Since January, when the Church of Scientology opened a new centre in the German capital, Berlin, Scientologists have come under intense public scrutiny.

People living near the centre complained that its members were actively trying to recruit and some politicians called for the organisation to be banned, accusing it of cult-type practices.

For years, Scientology has been monitored by German intelligence agencies, who claim the movement's structures and methods could pose a threat to the rule of law and "democratic order".

Under the new plan, the intelligence services have been asked to draw up a report on Scientology, and ministers will then have to clarify whether there is a legal basis for a ban.

But the BBC's Tristana Moore in Berlin says given the lobbying power of Germany's 6,000 Scientologists, who say they have a right to freedom of religion, it will be difficult to introduce a ban.

Scientology was founded in the United States in the 1950s by science-fiction writer L Ron Hubbard.

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 04:50:20 PM »

Oppression only makes these movements stronger. I dont think Christianity would still be around had the Romans not fed them to lions.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2007, 05:02:12 PM »

Oppression only makes these movements stronger. I dont think Christianity would still be around had the Romans not fed them to lions.

If everyone ignored them and didn't give them free publicity maybe they would have just died off.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 01:24:21 AM »

If everyone ignored them and didn't give them free publicity maybe they would have just died off.
I don't think scientology is really everyone thing, rather more of a ignorant and bored rich people/celebrity thing.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 01:28:52 AM »

I don't think scientology is really everyone thing, rather more of a ignorant and bored rich people/celebrity thing.
I agree (sorry Doug E Fresh!)
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 01:29:40 AM »

What I'm saying is if Scientology never got the free attention from the media then celebrities wouldn't convert to it just for attention, and celebrities are the only thing keeping it alive.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2007, 01:32:46 AM »

What I'm saying is if Scientology never got attention from the media then celebrities wouldn't convert to it just for attention.
But thats not possible, i don't think any goverment is gonna ban entertainment media any time soon.  I agree with the banning because i am annoyed by this lame sci-fi religion.  But I suppose the problem is, once you ban one where do you draw the line?  Maybe they will ban Islam next?
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2007, 01:35:35 AM »

But thats not possible, i don't think any goverment is gonna ban entertainment media any time soon.  I agree with the banning because i am annoyed by this lame sci-fi religion.  But I suppose the problem is, once you ban one where do you draw the line?  Maybe they will ban Islam next?

What do you mean not possible? I never said ban it. I just said if the media ignored it it would die off. An official government ban would give it even more attention.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2007, 01:38:05 AM »

Has anyone considered that people convert because it works for them? 
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2007, 01:41:40 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2007, 01:48:12 AM »

I just assumed it was cause Scientologists are evil. Evil I say!!!!
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2007, 01:51:08 AM »

Well there you have it.  Speaking on things of which you don't know about equates to ignorance.  Have you studied it, practiced it?  Engaged one who does?   Don't believe the media hype, find out for yourself (and this goes for whoever) in order to more properly gauge it.  
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2007, 01:53:19 AM »

Most people know enough about L Ron Hubbard to judge this cult.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2007, 01:54:11 AM »

I don't claim anything other than ignorance on this subject.

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I read a book on Hubbard once, he seems like a crazy mo fo. (it was written by his son)
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2007, 01:56:24 AM »

Crazy in a crazy world huh?
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2007, 02:01:35 AM »

pretty much yeah, but he seemed bad crazy .... not good crazy
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2007, 08:08:19 AM »

yes but south park dissed scientology therefore it is only for losers.
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2007, 08:54:57 AM »

yes but south park dissed scientology therefore it is only for losers.

Well then pretty much everything is only fo losers though. Except World of Warcraft.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2007, 08:56:38 AM »

lewl that was extremely funny.
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2007, 09:12:46 AM »

Well there you have it.  Speaking on things of which you don't know about equates to ignorance.  Have you studied it, practiced it?  Engaged one who does?   Don't believe the media hype, find out for yourself (and this goes for whoever) in order to more properly gauge it.   

All you have to do is watch the South Park episode for their basic beliefs. Thats why they got so mad about it. Remember the secret doctrines that were on South Park. That was what they really believed. And members have to pay like $30,000 dollars for the secrets. Even though South Park already spilled the beans members are still paying for this bullshit. So I wikied it for you so you can see how rediculouse it is.

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See also: Operating Thetan and Space opera in Scientology doctrine
Scientologists who have achieved the State of Clear may continue onto the Upper or OT (Operating Thetan) Levels. These levels are available by Church invitation only after a review of the candidate's character, ethics and $$$contribution$$$ to the Aims of Scientology.[87] The contents of these advanced courses are held in strict confidence within the Church and individuals who have read these materials may neither discuss nor disclose what they contain without jeopardizing their standing in the Church.[87] Presently, there are eight such levels, OT I to VIII.[88] Church management has promised to release a ninth OT level once certain expansion goals are met.[89] The highest level released to date, OT VIII, is only granted at sea, on the Scientology ship, the Freewinds, which was established to provide a "safe, aesthetic, distraction-free environment" where this OT level could be delivered.[90]

Despite their confidentiality within the Church, excerpts and descriptions of these materials were published online by a former member in 1995 and then circulated in mainstream media.[87] This occurred after the confidential teachings were submitted as evidence in court cases involving Scientology, thus becoming a matter of public record.[91][92] In the confidential OT levels, Hubbard describes a variety of traumas commonly experienced in past lives, experiences that extend many millions of years into the past.[91] He also explains how to reverse the effects of such traumas.[91]


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Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III is the story of Xenu and his Galactic Confederacy.

Scientologists have argued that the published accounts of the Xenu story and other teachings are distortions of their practice, presented out of context for the purpose of ridiculing their religion.[87]

Xenu (sometimes Xemu) is introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together and stuck to the bodies of the living. Scientologists believe the alien souls continue to do this today, causing a variety of physical ill-effects in modern-day humans. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans", and the advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating them and neutralizing their ill effects.[93]

Since Scientology is a business endeavour by a pulp writer their beliefs are quiet hackneyed and asinine. Their belief that psychiatrists are evil and the cause of the holocaust, they spin it in a way so as they look like victims.
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