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« on: December 09, 2007, 06:32:17 PM »

Girl, 10, 'probably agreed' to sex
By staff writers and wires
December 10, 2007 12:10am
Article from: NEWS.com.au

NINE men who pleaded guilty last month to gang-raping a 10-year-old girl at the Aurukun Aboriginal community on Cape York have escaped a prison term, with the sentencing judge saying the child victim "probably agreed" to have sex with them.

Cairns-based District Court judge Sarah Bradley ordered that the six teenage juveniles not even have a conviction recorded for the 2005 offence, and that they be placed on a 12-month probation order, The Australian newspaper reported this morning.

Queensland's attorney-general is meeting with the state's prosecutions boss to consider the possibility of lodging an appeal against the sentence.  The appeal period has lapsed, however it has been reported that the state could apply for an extension.

Judge Bradley sentenced three men over the age of consent of 16 - aged 17, 18 and 26 - to six months' imprisonment, with the sentence suspended for 12 months.

Judge Bradley said from her Cairns home yesterday that she considered the sentences "appropriate" in the case because they were the penalties asked for by the Crown prosecutor.

"I am not in a position to comment and I refer you to my sentencing remarks," Judge Bradley told The Australian.

Family supporters of the child victim warned that violence and murders could follow the judge's decision not to jail any of the offenders, and they questioned what message the ruling sent to the community.

When sentencing seven co-accused on October 24 at Aurukun, Judge Bradley noted: "The girl involved was not forced and she probably agreed to have sex with all of you."

The four juveniles are aged 14 to 16 years. They and the adults come from some of the most prominent and powerful Aboriginal families on Cape York.

Two more juveniles pleaded guilty on November 6 to raping the child, and were also given probation with no convictions recorded.

The child victim, now aged 12, does not enjoy the elevated family status of her attackers, and has had to be removed from Aurukun and put with foster parents.

News of the non-custodial sentences has added to the violent hatreds that exist in Aurukun between families and tribes and which have played a part in recent brawls involving dozens of assailants, many armed with sticks and spears.

Queensland Attorney-General Kerry Shine said last night he had called for an urgent meeting this morning with state Director of Public Prosecutions Leanne Clare, who, it is understood, was not told of the submissions made by her prosecutor for non-custodial sentences for the rapists.

Mr Shine said he needed to receive a clear picture of the circumstances surrounding the sentencing, including the prosecutor's submissions.

"I have been made aware of this tragic event this afternoon and have had an opportunity to read the sentencing remarks," Mr Shine said.

"I'm truly horrified by the circumstances of these offences. The circumstances of this case have not previously been brought to my attention, and nor has there been any communication with my office with regard to an appeal.

"Rape, particularly of a 10-year-old girl, by numerous offenders, is to my mind horrific in the extreme.

"It therefore appears to me that what I consider to be a particularly lenient sentence needs explanation."

One of the adult rapists is on the Australian National Child Offence Register following a conviction on March 29 last year for unlawful carnal knowledge of a female child - an offence committed after he was charged with the rape of the 10-year-old girl.

Judge Bradley said the man was the oldest and should have known a lot better.

"You cannot have sex with anyone under 16," she said.

"However, as I said before, I am not treating anyone any differently in terms of being a ringleader, and in your case, again, I will impose a sentence of imprisonment but it will be wholly suspended so you do not go to jail today.

"But if you get into more trouble in the next year, you could end up in jail." The man had been arrested on August 7, 2006, and the judge said the 14 days he spent in custody awaiting his sentence was to count as "imprisonment already served".

When sentencing the juveniles, Justice Bradley said: "All of you have pleaded guilty to having sex with a 10-year-old girl and (one of the juveniles) has pleaded guilty to having sex with another young girl as well.

"All of you have to understand that you cannot have sex with a girl under 16.

"If you do, you are breaking the law, and if you are found out, then you will be brought to court and could end up in jail.

"I accept that the girl involved, with respect to all of these matters, was not forced, and that she probably agreed to have sex with all of you.

"But you were taking advantage of a 10-year-old girl and she needs to be protected, and the girls generally in this community need to be protected.

"This is a very serious matter.  It is a very shameful matter and I hope that all of you realise that you must not have sex with young girls.

"Anyone under 16 is too young.  Some of you are still children yourselves.  Others of you are adults but I am treating you all equally in terms of the behaviour.

"I am not treating any of you as the ringleader or anything like that."

She asked each prisoner to stand up and said she hoped they would realise it was wrong to have sex with young girls.

Justice Bradley then offered them probation and when each agreed to accept that, she said she would not record a conviction.

To one of the juveniles, she said: "You are still a child. You have pleaded guilty to one offence of rape.

"You have been in a lot of trouble in the past, though, and you still have some community service to do.

"You have not been doing that well. I am prepared to offer you probation but you have got to stick with the rules of probation."

The juvenile agreed and was then placed on 12 months' probation, with no conviction recorded.

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How ridiculous is this? Even the adults who would clearly know that this is unacceptable got away with no real sentence.
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2007, 06:41:03 PM »

"All of you have to understand that you cannot have sex with a girl under 16.

"If you do, you are breaking the law, and if you are found out, then you will be brought to court and could end up in jail.


"This is a very serious matter.  It is a very shameful matter and I hope that all of you realise that you must not have sex with young girls.

"Anyone under 16 is too young.  Some of you are still children yourselves.  Others of you are adults but I am treating you all equally in terms of the behaviour.

Like they didn't fuckin know they were breaking the law? The judge treated them like 3 years olds.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 06:59:37 PM »

Shit's messed up in the hood...
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 07:14:48 PM »

These guys are fucks, and Australia is a fucked up nation, period.

It's ridiculous, but we need to ask, how is this occurring? If Australia is a functional state, we'd never see the courts favouring the rapists. Nor would see this staggering disparity where fucked up cases like this hits courts harder.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 07:25:30 PM »

Odd, I thought this kind of shit only happened in the "uncivilized" mohz lamb world... gee, guess I was mistaken.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 08:00:28 PM »

Odd, I thought this kind of shit only happened in the "uncivilized" mohz lamb world... gee, guess I was mistaken.

I appreciate your prospective and the contradiction is certainly worth noting and discussing. Amazing that these guys got away with this, that judge is going to have blood on her hands.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2007, 09:12:19 PM »

If Australia is a functional state, we'd never see the courts favouring the rapists. Nor would see this staggering disparity where fucked up cases like this hits courts harder.
IF Australia is a functional state ..... I think we have the answer to the problem right there ...
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2007, 05:52:44 AM »

A-G to appeal rape sentences
By Gabrielle Dunlevy, Roberta Mancuso and Rosemary Desmond
December 10, 2007 04:28pm
Article from: AAP

QUEENSLAND'S Attorney-General Kerry Shine says he will appeal sentences handed down against nine males who gang-raped a 10-year-old girl in 2005.

Cairns-based District Court judge Sarah Bradley did not record convictions against six teenage attackers and gave three others aged 17, 18 and 26 suspended sentences over the incident at the indigenous Aurukun community on Cape York.

The girl had "probably agreed" to have sex with the youths, Judge Bradley said during her sentencing remarks, The Australian newspaper reported today.

Mr Shine today met with Director of Public Prosecutions Leanne Clare for urgent advice, and determined the October sentences would be appealed, even though the deadline had passed.

"I am truly horrified by the circumstances of these offences," he said in Brisbane today.

"The law should be consistent in its application, whether it be in Aurukun or Clayfield."

Premier Anna Bligh has ordered all Cape York sexual offence sentences to be reviewed, to ensure there was not a trend of leniency.

"The nature of the sentences in this case are so far from community expectations I have to say I am alarmed, and I am not prepared to just write this off as an unusual one-off case," she said.

Opposition justice spokesman Mark McArdle said the penalties the prosecution sought should also be investigated.

"How did the DPP fail to put any evidence before the court, any submissions warranting a custodial sentence, and why didn't the DPP's office insist on a custodial sentence in these circumstances?" Mr McArdle said.

He was also concerned that the victim was said to have agreed to sex, as children could never consent.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said he was also "horrified" at the case.

"I'm disgusted and appalled by the reports that I've seen in today's newspapers on this case," Mr Rudd said in Brisbane.

The comments of Justice Bradley were swiftly condemned by prominent Brisbane-based Aboriginal academic Professor Boni Robertson, who called for her to step down.

"It's actually undermined everything we have worked for over the last 10 years to get our women justice in this country," Prof Robertson said in Brisbane today.

"There is something even more sinister – it's actually given a very clear message to perpetrators out there generally.

"I don't care that they are black, white or whatever.

"I think it's allowed perpetrators to think if you can come up with a defence that she asked for it or she condoned it, then that gives them a sense of leniency."

Ms Bligh said she was not aware of the sentencing until today, but knew of the child involved.

In 2006, an officer from the Child Safety department was dismissed after placing the girl into the Aurukun community from foster care.

She is now back in foster care, receiving medical and other treatment, and is reportedly doing well, Ms Bligh said.

Ms Bligh and Mr Shine did not join others in calling for the sacking of Ms Clare and Judge Bradley.


I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the victim was white  Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 06:15:11 AM »

I officially hate nearly every white-skinned people. It's clear that this order isn't promoted by some minority. This shit is being promoted by a majority, who votes in morons to maintain this setup.

Being one who doesn't believe in God, I don't see an afterlife for the oppressed. However, I think soon, justice will be served, when they realize that disconnection is the better way of life. The white Americans even couldn't be under the white British fucks, which tells you why an aboriginals are in this position. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2007, 07:55:58 AM »

i dont agree with vigilante, however sveen guiys, SEVEN, on one 10 year old girl...sssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhite all im saying is these guys are lucky i dont live near them.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 08:37:50 AM »

it's 9 guys isn't it?

i got a pretty hot 11 year old girl next door, she doesn't know me,but me and my chums are going to convince her to have sex with us.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2007, 08:40:06 AM »

dawg thats not even funny man... shit if i could id slap you right now
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2007, 08:47:39 AM »

That 11 year old would bash you and your mates and you know it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2007, 09:11:40 AM »

Well, it's clear that the girl had to move due to the influence these individuals carry. The setup in Black Australia is clearly implemented by parasitic white Australia:

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The child victim, now aged 12, does not enjoy the elevated family status of her attackers, and has had to be removed from Aurukun and put with foster parents.
Sativa, beating up the cat means, shit. This happens and many can provide the provide similar free cats, from street gangs to mobs. From Australia to Zimbabwe.

Shoot, you're from the Netherlands, why don't you say what's up to the East Euro, or Moroccan Mafia who play a role in child sex trade within NLD and back in home? I'm not saying you should, but entering Aurukun, Queensland, and attempting to take out free cats is insane. There is a reason why this shit occurs. They is a reason why over 700,000 child prostitutes in the West, damn it.

My point is that Black Australia needs to disconnect from the white institutions that are literally raping the population. We can complain about rape, but this shit isn't going to end with this case. I just heard, in East Side Vancouver, like inner-city Toronto, cries can be heard, and it just keeps on going. It's all mob-run after all, but I doubt folks would be going after street gangs either, who are quite known. The fact is these dysfunctional state thrive on this disparity.

I say so, because even in Vancouver, it's mainly Aboriginal and shit is not being done at all. That is because the power structure's aim is to centralize power. To maintain this dire poverty and this black market is subsidizing a lot of rich folks. Recognize that. We need to diffuse the power structure at all costs. We need to institution make up not resembling the elites, but our own, who will represent and implement policies to get the oppressed out of this socio-economic nightmare.
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2007, 09:12:11 AM »

yeh but you're ignored

dawg thats not even funny man... shit if i could id slap you right now

i was trying to make a point foo.
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2007, 09:14:36 AM »

i woudl attempt to castrate them not just beat them up

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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2007, 09:36:32 AM »

The problem with Black Australia is that they've been driven into the ground for so long, by aggressive institutionalized racism to the point that they are no longer attempting self-determination rather are just struggling for survival. White Australia is so accustomed to this racist shite that this desperation within the black community is expected, even encouraged. As it stands now, politicians won't touch the black 'problem', and the populace finds it acceptable to focus solely on black survival, while completely ignoring Aboriginal self-determination: which just compound more than 2 centuries of institutionalized racism. Unfortunately for Black Australia, their cultural construct is so contradictory to western capitalism, that without self-determination they are all but lost.

I've been here 15 years and the racist dismissive way that the whites treat Aboriginal Australia never ceases to blow my mind. So many high-skilled immigrants getting their dicks sucked by Australian governments while the people who've been here 40,000 years (since the very first migration from Africa) are treated worse than dogs.

That's partly why I need to get the fuck out of Aus, the misery of this land is too much to bear witness to.
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2007, 10:28:27 AM »

i woudl attempt to castrate them not just beat them up
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The problem with Black Australia is that they've been driven into the ground for so long, by aggressive institutionalized racism to the point that they are no longer attempting self-determination rather are just struggling for survival.
Believe me, I wouldn't bring up self-determination without referring to exploring that side: The Power of Whiteness:

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These programmes consume vast amounts of Aboriginal monies and create extensive white employment but little for Kooris genuinely in need. In 1998 Federal Government expenditure on Aboriginal Affairs approaches $3 billion this financial year, yet all of the social indicators clearly show that the majority of Indigenous Australians are as bad off today as they were thirty years ago. In which case, I hear you ask, what has happened to the more than $20 billion spent on Aboriginal Affairs since 1973? In a perverse demonstration of a 'post-colonial moment' in Australia, most of that money has ended up in the pockets and pay packets of non-Aboriginal Australians.
This is the only requirement: To recognize that an institutional corruption exists. Yes, the media may shake individuals, but regardless, the call for autonomy has been considered by a large number.

It's so strong that the corporate media goes so far claiming that it doesn't even exist. However even decades ago when Malcolm X arrived, he risen from an environment as resembling Black Australia. I feel that the probability for this situation over-turning is quite high.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2007, 03:31:03 PM »

Thats absolutely disgusting- Both the act, and the sentence, those guys should be buried alive.
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2007, 03:33:33 PM »

with snooker sticks shover up their asses.
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At this very early stage of rap development, it was particularly tied to emcee-ing more than it was associated to any specific song. It predominantly tied songs together as an adlib in between. It was born out of the creative inputs of DJs who had to work with self-imposed musical constraints such as the 4/4 time beat and sampling or sequencing sections of other songs to create a smooth flow of uninterrupted musical stimuli. These were eventually married with electronic equipment such as drums and synthesizers, and ultimate melodies to give it that bite and identity. In a sense, rap music artists were basically like a video game designer who had to figure out each artistic component at every turn until it developed into a more coherent musical genre that became the rap music we know today.

The first recorded version of rap music came alive in the early 1980s when DJs decided to make records out of their freestyle MCing. This necessitated the documentation of song lyrics so they do not change during each and every rendition. The age of the stromanbieter for rap music was gone paving the way for more organized chaos. Still, the freestyle and improvisation element remained a part of many DJ interludes as the song goes through certain sections that did not require too much rap singing.

Likewise, as a consequence of the hip-hop records, the influence of rap began to spread faster than ever before. Artists no longer had to travel far to get their music heard. Now, records from New York City and Philadelphia can be reproduced and transported to cities like Los Angeles, New Orleans, Dallas, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., and Seattle among others for people to appreciate and enjoy. This was primarily the reason for rap music’s rapid growth. Like Christmas mini lights, cities formed the nodes through which rap music would spread to other parts of the country. From small beginnings to grand achievements, the birth certificate translation to true stardom took a matter of years for rap music to be realized. Since then, its take-off and rise has been meteoric.

In this regard, it is almost impossible to talk about rap music but not discuss the golden age of rap. This was the era from the late 1980s to the mid 1990s when rap grew at an astounding rate fueled by the creative contributions of many artists from all over the continental United States and in many parts of the world. The primary trait of the Golden Age or Rap was that it was an almost unbroken wave of transformative music with every single pushing the boundaries of the genre. From this age and in the succeeding Gansta Rap age came names like Run-D.M.C., Dr. Dre, Ice T, MC Hammer, The Wu-tang Clan, Snoop Dogg, and The Notorious B.I.G. among others. The list of names can virtually fill a Sharepoint Hive without any problems.

According to social studies published in 2005, teenagers and children are more familiar with hip-hop and rap music more than any other musical genre. Up to 65% of all children from ages 8 to 18 hear hip-hop music on a daily basis, making it their routinary keratin hair treatment session, almost to the point that it has become an intrinsic part of their lives. With the diversification of the genre to include the more stylish R&B or rhythm and blues, it is not difficult to explain how rap music has continued to pervade radio station, TV and movie song line-ups. The marriage of rap and jazz which paved the way for R&B is itself a phenomenon that warrants all sorts of social analysis.

And with its very strong following, it is safe to say that rap music is here to stay. Years from now, when you open your TV on a bright Saturday morning, there’s a big chance you would be watching the next stage in the evolution of rap music, and there’s an even better chance you would be dancing or singing to that tune.

Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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