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« on: December 12, 2007, 08:57:39 AM »

Is this guy credible or what?
I've seen a couple of documentaries he did, such as Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11.
He does a good job exposing right-wing politicians, but I don't remember him ever criticizing Democrats or talking shit when Clinton was in office.
Anyone have opinions on this dude?
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2007, 09:53:34 AM »

hes a fake  he doesn't dive in to the situation far enough, he does the documentary half-ass and only exposes the situation but doesn't say whats really going on
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2007, 11:21:47 AM »

i think its better than nothing

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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2007, 11:27:51 AM »

Remember Michael Moore has to cater the dominant class. I wouldn't expect him to go beyond this and for that reason, his him, Fahrenheit 911 seemed appropriate.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2007, 11:45:02 AM »

btw why is this in hip hop?
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2007, 12:11:26 PM »

btw why is this in hip hop?
Only God knows.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2007, 06:53:58 PM »

he rails hillary clinton in sicko btw...he's not a shill for the democrats.  viva michael moore!
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2007, 06:56:56 PM »

I saw a doco the other day which said he was kinda dodgy, it seemed legit too, these were leftists criticizing him.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2007, 07:14:56 PM »

Fuck Michael Moore.  He IS a pawn of the democrats.  His actions in the 2004 election show that.  He willingly stumped for someone who he didn't agree with and blamed Ralph Nader for the fact that Al Gore couldn't carry his home state.  I lost most of my respect for him after that.  I appreciate his documentaries because they expose issues.  Otherwise, they aren't anything special, and in fact, there are far, far better ones out there.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2007, 07:19:14 PM »

Yeah I heard he totally dogged Ralph Nader.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2007, 07:30:04 PM »

He's a sellout in that regard.  He knows that Nader is the last honest man in politics, and what does Moore do?  He buys the Democratic propaganda about Nader and blames NADER for Al Gore's incompetence.  Sad really, but totally reflective of someone who has a surface analysis of the system (which his documentaries reflect).  If you are informed, Moore's work is not for you.  his work is for people who don't read independently and only consume corporate news.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2007, 07:46:51 PM »

Yeah kinda mainstream. He's said himself that his docos are for entertainment ( well not just entertainment but it's a big focus for him) This Canadian doco I watched were following him around the globe for 2-3 years and the dude wouldn't even give them an interview ... maybe he likes to be in complete control of any publicity he gets. Suss.
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2007, 08:31:51 PM »

Fuck Michael Moore.  He IS a pawn of the democrats.  His actions in the 2004 election show that.  He willingly stumped for someone who he didn't agree with and blamed Ralph Nader for the fact that Al Gore couldn't carry his home state.  I lost most of my respect for him after that.  I appreciate his documentaries because they expose issues.  Otherwise, they aren't anything special, and in fact, there are far, far better ones out there.

c'mon you cant be that naive.  nader had no chance in hell of winning plus it was revealed that republicans sneakily bankrolled some of his nominations in certain states without nader's knowledge so as to take away votes from the democrats.  the objective was to remove bush from the white house, moore said as much...it failed but shilling for nader wouldnt have changed that outcome.
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2007, 09:11:14 PM »

Moore is the only popular documentary maker. Take his movies for what their worth. He fudges facts and minipulates statistics and has many poor attempts at humpr. But he still helps get out messages. BTW his next movie will be gay. And by gay I mean about homosexuals.
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2007, 09:14:40 PM »

So, you only support people who have a chance to win instead of people who you agree with?  What if Kerry would have won?  I doubt much would have changed.  He would have continued to ignore working people and continued to support a hawkish foreign policy.  It's not like he was running an anti-war platform!  It's not like he was running an anti-corporate platform.  He was saying "I WILL FIGHT THIS WAR BETTER THAN BUSH!"  And you, and people like Moore drank the kool-aid.   

Schilling for Kerry didn't change that outcome.  At least he would have supported something that this country needs, AN ALTERNATIVE, rather than supporting Bush-lite.

I am not naive, but it's nice to see that you ARE that naive.  You drank the "better than Bush" kool-aid and what did it get you?  NOTHING but a betrayal of your own ideals and FOUR MORE YEARS.

As for the "Republicans bankrolling Nader" bullshit (show me some evidence of this)...how about the SHEER FASCISM of the Democrats who sued Nader to keep him off the ballot because they couldn't BEAT HIM POLITICALLY.  It's sad when people try to defend the bullshit two-party politics that go on in this country instead of changing them. 

How naive is it to support a candidate for what s/he is NOT instead of what s/he IS?  That is both the height of naivete and cynicism.  It's disappointing that you would defend someone like Moore who completely turned his back on what he REALLY believed and then slandered and defamed an honest man who has done more for this country than any politician of the last 100 years.   
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2007, 09:33:37 PM »

So, you only support people who have a chance to win instead of people who you agree with?  What if Kerry would have won?  I doubt much would have changed.  He would have continued to ignore working people and continued to support a hawkish foreign policy.  It's not like he was running an anti-war platform!  It's not like he was running an anti-corporate platform.  He was saying "I WILL FIGHT THIS WAR BETTER THAN BUSH!"  And you, and people like Moore drank the kool-aid.  

Schilling for Kerry didn't change that outcome.  At least he would have supported something that this country needs, AN ALTERNATIVE, rather than supporting Bush-lite.

I am not naive, but it's nice to see that you ARE that naive.  You drank the "better than Bush" kool-aid and what did it get you?  NOTHING but a betrayal of your own ideals and FOUR MORE YEARS.

As for the "Republicans bankrolling Nader" bullshit (show me some evidence of this)...how about the SHEER FASCISM of the Democrats who sued Nader to keep him off the ballot because they couldn't BEAT HIM POLITICALLY.  It's sad when people try to defend the bullshit two-party politics that go on in this country instead of changing them. 

How naive is it to support a candidate for what s/he is NOT instead of what s/he IS?  That is both the height of naivete and cynicism.  It's disappointing that you would defend someone like Moore who completely turned his back on what he REALLY believed and then slandered and defamed an honest man who has done more for this country than any politician of the last 100 years.  

ok, lets go rob a bank to bankroll the revolution and set it off lol.  this two party system is not going to be defeated by ralph nader or anyone like him anytime soon.  c'mon, practicality does have its place...

oh and the republican bankrolling nader isnt bullshit unless by bullshit you mean it actually happened. look it up yourself, cant be that hard to find.  rove giving obama advice and seeing obama getting into a dead heat with clinton isnt a new tactic at all.  rove and those fucks are banking on america saying no to a black man over saying no to a white woman.  that last sentence is just conjecture, the rest sadly did happen.
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2007, 10:09:05 PM »

man michael moor is a faggot, besides the 2004 election was fucked either way they just hacked the fucken elections, and if you want to watch a good fucking movie American Zeitgeist is the one
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2007, 10:34:55 PM »

man michael moor is a faggot, besides the 2004 election was fucked either way they just hacked the fucken elections, and if you want to watch a good fucking movie American Zeitgeist is the one

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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2007, 10:42:38 PM »

ok, lets go rob a bank to bankroll the revolution and set it off lol.  this two party system is not going to be defeated by ralph nader or anyone like him anytime soon.  c'mon, practicality does have its place...

oh and the republican bankrolling nader isnt bullshit unless by bullshit you mean it actually happened. look it up yourself, cant be that hard to find.  rove giving obama advice and seeing obama getting into a dead heat with clinton isnt a new tactic at all.  rove and those fucks are banking on america saying no to a black man over saying no to a white woman.  that last sentence is just conjecture, the rest sadly did happen.

Hyperbole much?  How is voting and supporting a candidate that you agree with tantamount to robbing a bank?  This is the type of of chicken-little sky is falling bullshit politics that gets people like you trapped.  You're trapped in "practicality,"  and what does "practicality" get you?   That dumb ass strategy didn't work!  I love how you are defending it when it was almost destined to fail. 

As for Ralph Nader breaking the two-party system up, how the fuck is PARTICIPATING IN IT, better?  If Nader would have had an equal shake, he would have won, but since this is a corrupt, cynical system, he will NEVER get an equal shake.  You are a slave to "being practical" and you'll vote for Hillary because you are a slave to "pragmatism" and "electability" and when she is elected you won't say shit when she starts fucking up.  Kind of like so called "leftists" who sat idly by while Bill Clinton expanded the incarceration of black and brown men, destroyed welfare, and dismantled the domestic manufacturing sector. 

You will support someone like Obama or Clinton, just like you did Gore and Kerry, not because you agree with them, because you don't, but because you are being "practical".  You will support them when they say that they will "nuke Iran" if they have to.  Or "I support free-trade" or "I am tough on crime"...Either way you are fucked and sacrificing your principles.  You just like getting fucked by the people who will look you in the face while fucking you (democrats) more than you like the people who won't look you in the face while they're fucking you (republicans)...I don't like getting politically fucked and I don't sell out my ideals for "practicality". 

As for doing YOUR research for you, you can post support for the claim.  I ain't making your argument for you.  I believe that you are a republican operative.  There's plenty of evidence for this.  If you disagree, YOU look it up.  See how silly and lazy that is?
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2007, 10:47:46 PM »

Mike Gravel or Kucinich could beat Clinton or Obama if they were given a fair fighting chance. I have hear Gravel in person and he is a very progressive guy. I might not agree with everything he says or thinks but he is a step or a mile in the right direction.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

His biography is hence quite intriguing, to say the least, and, just like the best anti aging cream is probably going to be lingering over the shelves of all cosmetic stores for many years to come, Immortal Technique’s songs are going to remain hot, fresh and sought after for a really long time. Due to the fact they speak about topics which are to be considered taboos, his lyrics continue to be listened to with the exterior shutters down in most homes.

Immortal technique was born in Peru, in El Hospital Militar de Lima; several years later, his family moved to America in order to escape the harsh living conditions in Peru. Even though they could not afford to buy any terrain a vendre there, they managed to move to Harlem in the ‘80s. Immortal Technique went to Hunter High School, but just like a hip replacement recall is never of good omen, his grades and behavior weren’t any good during high school either. He was the school bully, he harassed other students and he was not afraid to get involved in scandals with drug dealers from around the area. And while his interactions with these drug dealers were not as numerous as used cars in Phoenix are, they still managed to leave an ugly mark on his biography.

Plus, his graffiti did not actually resemble any Dreamweaver templates, but he was famous for his controversial acts of vandalism. His violence against others almost got him expelled in 1996, but he somehow managed to finish high school and even attend college at Pennsylvania State University. This time, his college experience only lasted for two years; he was then charged and convicted and he was eventually imprisoned in Pennsylvania.

In prison, just like a SEO San Antonio company would focus on booting a web site’s ranking, Immortal Technique also focused on boosting his own social ranking. He began studying the policy of religious history, and, finding the inspiration he needed, he began putting his thoughts in lyrics. In 1999 he was paroled and, even though he was first considered some sort of Agen Bola, as no one had heard of him at first, he began to attend freestyle battles he started winning.

From there on, his career started to bloom, as he gave birth to albums such as “Revolutionary Vol 1” in 2002, “Revolutionary Vol 2” in 2004 and “Revolutionary Vol 3” in 2008. He also became a political activist and started to sing about political injustice (check out his opinion on the imprisonment of Mumia Abu-Jamal or the songs on George W. Bush). Despite of the fact that his albums might not have gotten the type of positive reviews African mango reviews are usually comprised of, this has not stopped him from getting involved in future projects, including an important film collaboration. He might not approve the work of the CNA Financial Corporation, but we all need to eat, right?




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Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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