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« on: December 27, 2007, 08:20:32 AM »

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RAWALPINDI, Islamabad — An attack on a political rally killed the Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto near the capital, Islamabad, Thursday. Witnesses said Ms. Bhutto was fired upon before the blast, and an official from her party said Ms. Bhutto was further injured by the explosion, which was apparently caused by a suicide attacker.

At least a dozen more people were killed. “At 6:16 p.m. she expired,” said Wasif Ali Khan, a member of Ms. Bhutto’s party who was at Rawalpindi General Hospital where she was taken after the attack, according to The Associated Press.

Hundreds of supporters had gathered at the rally, which was being held at Liaqut Bagh, a park that is a common venue for political rallies and speeches, in Rawalpindi, the garrison city adjacent to the capital.

Amid the confusion after the explosion, the site was littered with pools of blood. Shoes and caps of party workers were lying on the asphalt, and shards of glass were strewn about the ground.

Farah Ispahani, a party official from Ms. Bhutto’s party, said: “It is too soon to confirm the number of dead from the party’s side. Private television channels are reporting 20 dead.” Television channels were also quoting police sources as saying that at least 14 people were dead.

The attack immediately raised questions about whether parliamentary elections scheduled for January will go ahead or be postponed.

Ms. Bhutto was the target of a suicide attack in October in Karachi when she returned from exile to Pakistan. That attack, caused by two bombs exploding just seconds apart, narrowly missed Ms. Bhutto but killed scores of people, including many of her party workers.

The attack is the latest blow to Pakistan’s treacherous political situation. state of emergency

Ms. Bhutto, 54, returned to Pakistan to present herself as the answer to the nation’s troubles: a tribune of democracy in a state that has been under military rule for eight years, and the leader of the country’s largest opposition political party, founded by her father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, one of Pakistan’s most flamboyant and democratically inclined prime ministers.

But her record in power, and the dance of veils she has deftly performed since her return -- one moment standing up to General Musharraf, then next seeming to accommodate him, and never quite revealing her actual intentions -- has stirred as much distrust as hope among Pakistanis.

A graduate of Harvard and Oxford, she brought the backing of Washington and London, where she impresses with her political lineage, her considerable charm and her persona as a female Muslim leader.

But with these accomplishments, Ms. Bhutto also brought controversy, and a legacy among Pakistanis as a polarizing figure who during her two turbulent tenures as prime minister, first from 1988 to 1990 and again from 1993 to 1996, often acted imperiously and impulsively.

She faced deep questions about her personal probity in public office, which led to corruption cases against her in Switzerland, Spain and Britain, as well as in Pakistan.

Ms. Bhutto saw herself as the inheritor of her father’s mantle, often spoke of how he encouraged her to study the lives of legendary female leaders ranging from Indira Gandhi to Joan of Arc.

Following the idea of big ambition, Ms. Bhutto called herself chairperson for life of the opposition Pakistan Peoples Party, a seemingly odd title in an organization based on democratic ideals and one she has acknowledged quarreling over with her mother, Nusrat Bhutto, in the early 1990s.

Saturday night at the diplomatic reception, Ms. Bhutto showed how she could aggrandize. Three million people came out to greet her in Karachi on her return last month, she said, calling it Pakistan’s ”most historic” rally. In fact, crowd estimates were closer to 200,000, many of them provincial party members who had received small amounts of money to make the trip.

Such flourishes led questioning in Pakistan about the strength of her democratic ideals in practice, and a certain distrust, particularly amid signs of back-room deal-making with General Musharraf, the military ruler she opposed.

“She believes she is the chosen one, that she is the daughter of Bhutto and everything else is secondary,” said Feisal Naqvi, a corporate lawyer in Lahore who knew Ms. Bhutto.

When Ms. Bhutto was re-elected to a second term as Prime Minister, her style of government combined both the traditional and the modern, said Zafar Rathore, a senior civil servant at the time.

But her view of the role of government differed little from the classic notion in Pakistan that the state was the preserve of the ruler who dished out favors to constituents and colleagues, he recalled.

As secretary of interior, responsible for the Pakistani police force, Mr. Rathore, who is now retired, said he tried to get an appointment with Ms. Bhutto to explain the need for accountability in the force. He was always rebuffed, he said.

Finally, when he was seated next to her in a small meeting, he said to her, “I’ve been waiting to see you,” he recounted. “Instantaneously, she said: ‘I am very busy, what do you want. I’ll order it right now.’ ”

She could not understand that a civil servant might want to talk about policies, he said. Instead, he said, ”she understood that when all civil servants have access to the sovereign, they want to ask for something.”

But until her death, Ms. Bhutto ruled the party with an iron hand, jealously guarding her position, even while leading the party in absentia for nearly a decade.

Members of her party saluted her return to Pakistan, saying she was the best choice against General Musharraf. Chief among her attributes, they said, was sheer determination.

Ms. Bhutto’s marriage to Asif Ali Zardari was arranged by her mother, a fact that Ms. Bhutto has often said was easily explained, even for a modern, highly educated Pakistani woman.

To be acceptable to the Pakistani public as a politician she could not be a single woman, and what was the difference, she would ask, between such a marriage and computer dating?

Mr. Zardari is known for his love of polo and other perquisites of the good life like fine clothes, expensive restaurants, homes in Dubai and London, and an apartment in New York.

He was minister of investment in Ms. Bhutto’s second government. And it was from that perch that he made many of the deals that haunted Ms. Bhutto, and himself, in the courts.

There were accusations that the couple had illegally taken $1.5 billion from the state. It is a figure that Ms. Bhutto has vigorously contested.

Indeed, one of Ms. Bhutto’s main objectives in seeking to return to power was to restore the reputation of her husband, who was jailed for eight years in Pakistan, said Abdullah Riar, a former senator in the Pakistani Parliament and a former colleague of Ms. Bhutto’s.

“She told me, ‘Time will prove he is the Nelson Mandela of Pakistan,’ ” Mr. Riar said.
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2007, 09:09:15 AM »

Hmm....so you wonder if Musharraf has anything to do with this...
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 09:40:07 AM »

I had a hint feeling that she would eventually be killed off.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2007, 10:59:05 AM »

Damn... Pakistan fucking up...
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 12:29:04 PM »

Damn. I should have seen this coming. 10 years ago Islam was uprising so well. Then the Taliban came. Not even Islamabad is safe anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 04:53:03 PM »

bhutto wasnt perfect, but she would've improved pakistan's plight and conversely, the region and ultimately the world's as well.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 07:45:49 PM »

She was corrupt, and by corrupt I mean caught red handed bribing people.  I can't say that she would have done a great deal. She didn't have the support of the army, and without the support of the army in Pakistan, you won't get anything meaningful done.  The army runs the show. 

Can't say this is much of a surprise since 150+ people got bombed the same day that she came back.  She was rather foolish going out into huge crowds of people in a drop-top with very little armor plating.  Could have done everything that she wanted to do from behind some bullet-proof glass.  I think people would have understood after the first assassination attempt. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 08:45:38 PM »

The real question is who the US is gonna throw their support behind now.



EDIT: And GoS, of course she was corrupt. ALL Pakistani leaders have been corrupt. Name me one that hasn't been? Their political system is fucked, period. There's no hope for a legitimate "democracy" in Pakistan anytime soon.
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2007, 09:15:39 PM »

How about Jinnah. He was definitly not courrupt.
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2007, 09:28:39 PM »

I wonder who carried out the attacks?

The media is going crazy about this as well since she was pro-Western. They blame Al Qaeda for the attack, or at least are pointing fingers at them. We will probably see eventually.
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 12:04:24 AM »

At least everyone can blame it on Al Queda or Islam....
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2007, 12:33:10 PM »

the way i see it, she's better than musharraf and pakistan is probably the only place in the world where american influence would have been a good thing in somewhat suppressing the resurgent taliban and al-qaeda in pakistan and afghanistan. 

about the corruption stuff, she was already rich as hell and she was never convicted, that isnt to say that she wasnt corrupt by any means but it is now obvious how much some people hated her.  yes, she was backed by the US to run this time, but at the very least she would have been a bit of a stabilizing counterbalance against the omnipotent pakistani military and the religious fanatics-and at best, she would have finally had the opportunity to redeem herself. 

the rioting going on in pakistan right now isnt because they've been watching western news channels lionizing her, i'm sure.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2007, 01:07:50 PM »

Why is this in the middle east section? Pakistan is not a middle-eastern country, its a south asian country. And I hate Bhutto anyway there was a reason she was in exile. And everytime I watch CNN I feel sick. Pakistan hasnt done enough my ass.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2007, 03:08:52 PM »

Why is this in the middle east section? Pakistan is not a middle-eastern country, its a south asian country.

Lmao thats actually a very good point... ignorant Western devils!
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2007, 05:35:25 PM »

i was looking for this thread in asia too lol.  to be fair, alot of central american (north american) stuff is put into south america in these forums too.
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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2007, 05:39:36 PM »

I'm sorry, I have no idea why I opened the thread here. Can some mod move it to the right section?
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2007, 05:42:18 PM »

I'm sorry, I have no idea why I opened the thread here. Can some mod move it to the right section?
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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2007, 06:13:15 PM »

Bhutto is not only corrupt due to bribes, or by not fulling her promises, but she aided the Taliban. Extremism that was supported to sideline the Durand land dispute, and promote the same phenomena in Jammu & Kashmir did not improve livelihoods. To be honest, I don't know how she would take Pakistan anywhere.

As for the question, who killed her? Maybe ISI. In the end, however, it really doesn't matter. The "democracy" she was promoting didn't even have the support of the army. I doubt that her intention was to introduce progress.

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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2007, 01:27:27 AM »

All the Pakistan threads have been in the Middle East section for the past few months, but if you really want me to move them I can.
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And with its very strong following, it is safe to say that rap music is here to stay. Years from now, when you open your TV on a bright Saturday morning, there’s a big chance you would be watching the next stage in the evolution of rap music, and there’s an even better chance you would be dancing or singing to that tune.

Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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