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« on: January 01, 2008, 09:05:53 PM »

Gordon Brown New World Order Speech

Britains new Prime Minister Gordon Brown talks about the Elite's Plan for a One World Totalitarian Socialist State, the Globalazation Agenda for a New World Order.

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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 10:02:12 PM »

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One World Totalitarian Socialist State

SMH...

You really don't know what socialism is if you think Gordon Brown is advocating a socialist world order.  Here, since you are too lazy or inept to learn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

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is a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community[1] for the purposes of increasing social and economic equality and cooperation. This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by socialized (state or community) ownership of the means of production.

Free market economics runs completely counter to socialism.  But since you are a right wing reactionary conspiracist, you don't see this.  Corporate tyranny is not advocating collective ownership of the means of production to be placed in the hands of the working class. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 09:43:09 PM »

SMH right back at you....the text I posted is from the the text provided by the creator of the video under 'about video' on the youtube website.  Check the site...You are so quick to attack instead of just asking or atleast probing before hand.   

Did you atleast even listen to the video or ask me why I posted that info in the text?  NO.  You asked and answered your own damn question; so you can go #@&! yourself while you at-- you NWO, biometric chip, global government, soul-less, RMX hating negroe, but my bad, because "I can't tell you nothing" 

Fuck outta here...all you got is words semantics and the material realm hence the overdependence on them, I am much more than just that but that is something, sadly, you will never know about, no matter how many books you read....

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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2008, 04:45:30 PM »

Irony:

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You are so quick to attack instead of just asking or atleast probing before hand.   

Says the man who doesn't even check his own sources...

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Did you atleast even listen to the video or ask me why I posted that info in the text?

I watched the video.  It's him advocating globalization and trade liberalism.  I am not going to ask you why you posted the text, because it would be safe to assume that you agree with it.

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You asked and answered your own damn question; so you can go #@&! yourself while you at-- you NWO, biometric chip, global government, soul-less, RMX hating negroe, but my bad, because "I can't tell you nothing" 

Where am I asking a question?

As for the rest of that "insult"...it's completely nonsensical.  The only part that's correct is RMX hating. 

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all you got is words semantics and the material realm hence the overdependence on them, I am much more than just that but that is something, sadly, you will never know about, no matter how many books you read....

Irony, since this is you stealing a charge that I often throw at you.  And how am I making a semantic distinction here?  You don't even know what the word means if you think I am being semantic.  It's obvious that you don't know what socialism is if you think that Gordon Brown is advocating it. 

Good one on the professor X, because you really are a whack ass knock-off version of him:  less entertaining, less innovative and less educated.

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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2008, 05:29:57 PM »

you really are a whack ass knock-off version of him:  less entertaining, less innovative and less educated.

No elitism in that statement?  Not everyone has been fortunate enough to have the financial resources available to gain a high standard of education, which is a deliberate fault of the system you are often quick to defend.

Saying that though, there is nothing socialist about Gordon Brown.  For a supposed party of the workers Nu Labour and their new breed of politicians are more far right and capitalist friendly than the Tories!  In fact it's impossible to tell the difference anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2008, 06:40:44 PM »

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No elitism in that statement?  Not everyone has been fortunate enough to have the financial resources available to gain a high standard of education, which is a deliberate fault of the system you are often quick to defend.

You need to stay out of the parts of conversation of which you know nothing of my Irish friend.  Do you know who Professor X was?  No, because you don't know dick about hiphop, thus do not have the framework to understand the exchange from which you quoted.  But that is oh so typical of you.  You don't know anything about CONTEXT. 

But yeah, that's me defending the system.  Can I get some evidence of me defending the "system"? 

And you don't have to have a ton of degrees to be well-educated.  Some of the smartest, most well-read, accurate and detailed researchers and activists I know didn't finish high school, or have GEDs.  Public libraries abound and if you are motivated you will educate yourself, which is how I avoided all of the pitfalls that were set for me as a boy and young man.  But you think you know something about me...pfffft.

I didn't have the financial resources to get the education I got dunny.  It's called scholarships and loans.  Sorry that I did well in my public  (read, free) high school.  I had a mother who sacrificed a great deal as well.  But you have to hate on me because you are somehow intimidated by the way I interact with people who hurl very personal insults about my politics and my race.  You don't know anything about my history with RMX, because you are too lazy to go to the archives and check.  If you did that, you would have evidence to support your rather boneheaded claims that I am a "government agent". 

But what's funny is that you are willing to hop on me for pointing out the factual errors in RMX's post when you actually agree with my analysis of Gordon Brown.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2008, 07:57:25 PM »

Irish friend? you seem to throw this about a lot. 

And no I have absolutely no idea about the hip hop scene, I listen to the music though that relates to me, hence the reason I am on this forum.

But hell yeah, I am too lazy to trawl through this forum and find your previous posts.  I don't need to, we both know you have continuously defended the system in the majority of the confrontations we have had on this forum. 

As for your education, my indoctrinated friend, it is not as easy as you imply to gain scholarships and loans, not over here anyway.  If you study certain degree's in the humanities or Arts in Britain then you are automatically prevented from gaining loans and grants.  Those that are available are for those who are studying business or the like, and those scarce awards available in the humanities go to those with the highest grades and those who have conformed, not someone who has continuously written essays attacking imperialism and his own government and the actions of the West. 

Now I know what you are going to say - "Not my fault your not smart enough to receive the top grade and a scholarship", you have said it before.  And this once again portrays your elitist attitude and what seems to be a naivety or defence of the system?  Maybe I am wrong.  But why not take heed of what Noam Chomsky (Your mentor) has said, that there are protocols in place within the system to remove those who don't agree.  In fact these protocols or policy are in place to weed out troublemakers in all aspects of this f**ked up system, especially within the education system.

Also, I do agree with you regarding Gordon Brown and Nu Labour and I don't find anything funny about it.  In fact the situation in Britain has gone beyond funny, it's quite frankly completely screwed.  One only needs to read the latest proposals from Brown's government regarding the NHS and the complete disregard for universal healthcare.  Take a read at some of John Pilger's comments here - www.johnpilger.com - it is frightening.  Then of course there is the police state that Blair has implemented and Brown has continued, i.e. denied the right to protest, strike, stop and searches, detention without charge for up to 30 odd days (there is proposed legislation to increase this by another 20 days), and Anti-social Behaviour Orders (ASBOs) where cops and judges can issue you with a curfew without any proof of wrong doing (used to stop dissident activity on most occasions).

Britain is extremely messed up and fascist, and it is set to get worse, so why would I not agree with you?
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2008, 08:15:25 PM »

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Irish friend? you seem to throw this about a lot. 

And no I have absolutely no idea about the hip hop scene, I listen to the music though that relates to me, hence the reason I am on this forum.

I mention your nationality because a great deal of your comments about me being a government agent and such, are ironic given the fact that you are not even from the US.

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But hell yeah, I am too lazy to trawl through this forum and find your previous posts.  I don't need to, we both know you have continuously defended the system in the majority of the confrontations we have had on this forum. 


So you have no evidence of anything, which is proof enough to show that your charge is baseless.  Why don't you post ONE THREAD my friend, just ONE THREAD that has evidence of your allegations?  The search function is at the top of the page, all you need to do is find one thread where I am "defending the system"...whatever the hell that enormously vague and ambigous phrase means.  What specific system?  Peer review?  That's the only system that you will see me defend.  But let's see you find me defending the "government" or capitalism, or imperialism or racism or sexism or any other myriad "systems" that exist in this world.  SHow me where I am defending political disparities or economic ones.  You have nothing Boris, nothing.

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As for your education, my indoctrinated friend, it is not as easy as you imply to gain scholarships
and loans, not over here anyway.  If you study certain degree's in the humanities or Arts in Britain then you are automatically prevented from gaining loans and grants.  Those that are available are for those who are studying business or the like, and those scarce awards available in the humanities go to those with the highest grades and those who have conformed, not someone who has continuously written essays attacking imperialism and his own government and the actions of the West. 

Certain areas of the humanities?  Like what?  History?  Because that is what I studied.  In particular third world history.  I'm sorry that scholarships in the UK go to those who have gotten the highest grades, etc.  But the fact that you don't know shit about me shows that you don't know that all I write here is anti-imperial.  That's all that I have ever written.  But you assume too much and know very little about me or what my scholarship reflected.  I am sorry that I was able to stay true to my politics, to be anti-imperial and anti-capitalist and still receive high marks.  I am a black man in the US Borris.  I know the reality of the history of the US, and what makes you think that I would defend imperialism and white supremacy.  But you assume that I just conformed, but again, that is all you have: assumption.  It's tiring the level of assumption you take with regards to me, but assumption is one of the last lines of defense for those who do not have EVIDENCE or actual argument.  And I'm sorry that you are too lazy to back up your claims, but that's your doing and not mine.

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Now I know what you are going to say - "Not my fault your not smart enough to receive the top grade and a scholarship", you have said it before.  And this once again portrays your elitist attitude and what seems to be a naivety or defence of the system?  Maybe I am wrong.  But why not take heed of what Noam Chomsky (Your mentor) has said, that there are protocols in place within the system to remove those who don't agree.  In fact these protocols or policy are in place to weed out troublemakers in all aspects of this f**ked up system, especially within the education system.

Did you not read my prior post?  You are intelligent Borris, and diplomas have nothing to say one way or the other about that, but it is obvious that you are also lazy, which has nothing to do with my "elitism" and everything to do with your admitted flaws.

Please Borris, please, point to where I am defending the ridiculous world of professional academia?  Please point to me defending things like what happened to Norman Finklestein.  AGain, Borris I am a teacher in a ghetto school in San Francisco.  I know more about how the educational system in this country is structured, who it rewards and who it punishes far better than you could imagine.  But you don't know anything about me, which I wish you would admit.  You don't know what a black man in the US has to overcome nor of the awareness of systemic injustice that being a black man develops.  But that's me, being an uncle tom, defending the educational conformity system and not directly, every single day of my professional life, fighting against it. 

What are you doing besides coming here and attacking people who you should be allying with simply because their titles are "moderator"?
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2008, 09:00:34 PM »

What are you doing besides coming here and attacking people who you should be allying with simply because their titles are "moderator"?
Your other points I will deal with but for now - do you seriously believe the only reason I have my differences with yourself is due to my dislike of authority? 

My difference comes down to the fact I understand that everything is possible and just because I have never heard of something or there is no proof that I am aware off, does not mean it isn't true.  I have learned so much over the last few years to understand that anything and everything is possible. 

Things I didn't know existed, say 6 years ago, I would have completely dismissed, however I have been awoken to stuff and have been left completely dumbfounded as a result.

Just because someone says the world is flat, doesn't mean it is!  And what I have found a lot on these forums is an uncompromising position that fails to accept the possibility of what some people say may be true.  I find this rather arrogant and self righteous, and on most occasions I find that this stifles debate on these forums.

There is IMHO a form of censorship that exists here, where if anyone begins to think outside the box that they are laughed at or made to feel alienated by a select few, just like the taboo and stigmatism that exists in the real world, in real society, were people are made to feel like outcasts for being different or speaking in contradiction to those with influence.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2008, 09:03:05 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2008, 10:20:58 PM »

How is that truth? Sounds a lot more like flat rhetoric to me... anytime GoS has asked boris to provide some evidence supporting his allegations that the moderators here are government agents, or something to that effect, he prattles on meaningless fluff about "thinking outside the box."

No one is attempting to "stifle debate"... but if you have no evidence to back up your claims, you will not fare very well in a debate with anyone. If you spent half the time actually digging up hard evidence--or any evidence, really--supporting your claims that you do complaining that you don't have the freedom to make said claims, people would take what you have to say a little more seriously.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2008, 12:53:55 AM »

There is a converse to all of the points you make Boris.  Just because someone says the world is round doesn't mean it is.  We can go on and on ad infinitum if you like, but all you are proving is that there is relativism in the world.

There is NO censorship here and the best you can do is come up with some nebulous, undefined "pressure to conform".  If you post something and cannot support it with actual evidence, then it deserves to be struck down.  I'm sorry that you can't accept that, but that's how it is in the real world.  If you cannot support your own ideological position because people are ridiculing you, well, i'm sorry but you need to grow up a little.  If you can't take someone analyzing and dissecting your views, then what is the point in having them?

I am not here to make people feel good.  I am here to learn and develop my own beliefs and have them challenged.  If what some people say may be true, then PROVE it.  That's all.  If you have strong PROOF then people will be convinced.  If it can be shreded because the proof is weak, then that's not the fault of the shredder but rather the fault of the person who makes the initial claim.  When people like you come here and make absurd claims based on literally NOTHING, about this place being run by government agents, etc. then how is anyone going to take you seriously.  Why should I just let you smear me and a site I have put a great deal of time into helping develop?  Why should I lower my own personal standards for evidence knowing that if I were to do that in my own classroom I would feel like I was doing people a disservice?  I can make all kinds of fanciful claims and theories about things, but without evidence what is the point?  The bottom line here is that if you believe something, that lizards rule the world or the site is run by government agents, then you had better put up a great deal of EVIDENCE or it will be attacked and dismissed as rubbish.

But let's talk about what you, and people like YOU, have done repeatedly.  You have attacked me in an incredibly personal way without using anything other than rhetoric.  You don't even have serious disagreements with my politics because if you did, then you would at least have a SINGLE concrete example of where you disagree with me.  We may disagree on peer-review, but I say in that realm, what do you propose in its stead?  When those questions are asked, you give nothing.  You just point to the problems with it and offer nothing.  I just ask you to submit some evidence Borist, evidence of anything.  I am tired of your platitudes and rhetoric because, after a dozen or so requests for actual evidence, you provide nothing, which shows that you are lazy and hollow.  You are smart Boris, but I am tired of arguing with empty, rhetoric.  Let's debate some tangibles and we might have something.

But the best parts, despite all of your attacks, is that you don't agree with the lack of veracity in RMX's initial post and that you admit that you are TOO LAZY to prove your point.  Instead you attack me for being elitist because I say that RMX is a cheap immitation of Professor X from X-clan (of whom you know nothing about, and admit) and then launch into some tirade about an educational system which I will NEVER defend.
 
Also, it is BEYOND ironic that you would call me self-righteous.  Anyone who calls someone else self-righteous makes the ironometer explode.  You, who comes in here claiming that people are government agents has the audacity to call anyone self-righteous.  You who says that "anything is possible" has the nerve to call someone self-righteous.  Look up irony, because you clearly do not understand one letter of it.
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If you are a music enthusiast, then it is very likely that you have come across a genre of music called rap music. Rap music is area that has very clear distinguishing features most notably the rapid and rhythmic chanting of the lyrics perfectly timed to the beat and musical accompaniment that forms the base of the song. Rap music traces its roots to the development of the hiphop subculture which predominantly carries four complementary musical styles namely: rapping, dancing and in particular break dancing, scratching or more popularity known as DJing, and graffiti writing which others dub as vandalism. Another sub-element of this genre is beat-boxing which also features heavily in the repertoire of many rap artists. If you thought this was an easy musical genre to characterize, then you were poorly informed: consider, many research papers and doctoral dissertations have been written on the subject of rap music and its accompanying stylistic elements.

The history of rap music, or hip-hop music, is composed of a series of rapid development phases that have all culminated in the popular rap versions of today. Before rap music took off in the 1990s, it was predominantly referred to as disco rap in the late 1970s. The three rappers who had a hand in coining the term “rap music” were DJ Hollywood, Lovebug Starski, and Keith Cowboy, the last one being officially credited with the term hip-hop. Rap music original began with improvisations and freestyle singing to add an element of unpredictability to the songs in parties and other gatherings. Even in the 1960s to 1970s, the initial elements of rap music where already sown in urban subcultures particularly in New York City where adhoc performances in the streets led to a coalescing of influences in the wake of the Civil Rights era. Like the iPhone 5 release date, it had a slow and steady rise building into an explosion of creativity and style that has made it into what it has become today.

At this very early stage of rap development, it was particularly tied to emcee-ing more than it was associated to any specific song. It predominantly tied songs together as an adlib in between. It was born out of the creative inputs of DJs who had to work with self-imposed musical constraints such as the 4/4 time beat and sampling or sequencing sections of other songs to create a smooth flow of uninterrupted musical stimuli. These were eventually married with electronic equipment such as drums and synthesizers, and ultimate melodies to give it that bite and identity. In a sense, rap music artists were basically like a video game designer who had to figure out each artistic component at every turn until it developed into a more coherent musical genre that became the rap music we know today.

The first recorded version of rap music came alive in the early 1980s when DJs decided to make records out of their freestyle MCing. This necessitated the documentation of song lyrics so they do not change during each and every rendition. The age of the stromanbieter for rap music was gone paving the way for more organized chaos. Still, the freestyle and improvisation element remained a part of many DJ interludes as the song goes through certain sections that did not require too much rap singing.

Likewise, as a consequence of the hip-hop records, the influence of rap began to spread faster than ever before. Artists no longer had to travel far to get their music heard. Now, records from New York City and Philadelphia can be reproduced and transported to cities like Los Angeles, New Orleans, Dallas, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., and Seattle among others for people to appreciate and enjoy. This was primarily the reason for rap music’s rapid growth. Like Christmas mini lights, cities formed the nodes through which rap music would spread to other parts of the country. From small beginnings to grand achievements, the birth certificate translation to true stardom took a matter of years for rap music to be realized. Since then, its take-off and rise has been meteoric.

In this regard, it is almost impossible to talk about rap music but not discuss the golden age of rap. This was the era from the late 1980s to the mid 1990s when rap grew at an astounding rate fueled by the creative contributions of many artists from all over the continental United States and in many parts of the world. The primary trait of the Golden Age or Rap was that it was an almost unbroken wave of transformative music with every single pushing the boundaries of the genre. From this age and in the succeeding Gansta Rap age came names like Run-D.M.C., Dr. Dre, Ice T, MC Hammer, The Wu-tang Clan, Snoop Dogg, and The Notorious B.I.G. among others. The list of names can virtually fill a Sharepoint Hive without any problems.

According to social studies published in 2005, teenagers and children are more familiar with hip-hop and rap music more than any other musical genre. Up to 65% of all children from ages 8 to 18 hear hip-hop music on a daily basis, making it their routinary keratin hair treatment session, almost to the point that it has become an intrinsic part of their lives. With the diversification of the genre to include the more stylish R&B or rhythm and blues, it is not difficult to explain how rap music has continued to pervade radio station, TV and movie song line-ups. The marriage of rap and jazz which paved the way for R&B is itself a phenomenon that warrants all sorts of social analysis.

And with its very strong following, it is safe to say that rap music is here to stay. Years from now, when you open your TV on a bright Saturday morning, there’s a big chance you would be watching the next stage in the evolution of rap music, and there’s an even better chance you would be dancing or singing to that tune.

Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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