The only "false" statements I made were that fluoride isn't allowed in Canada or Europe. My bad, fluoride isn't allowed in MOST of Canada and NEARLY all of Europe, including Norway, which has better dental health than America. Anyways, I didn't even mention the dental effects of fluoride. You're bringing up shit I didn't even say. What other false statements are you talking about?
Dental effects are HEALTH EFFECTS! My god man, do you not know what happens to people who have bad dental habits? Bad dental health can KILL YOU. You're saying that it's not about health in one breath, then saying it is in another. Also, I gave you a list of reasons why Norway's dental health MAY be better than the US, chiefly being that their diet is MUCH lower in refined sugars than the diet of the average American. The fact that you made sweeping statements about millions of people and then say "well, that's not that big of a fallacy" is telling of a great deal about you personally.
Not once in this thread did I say fluoride wasn't good for killing bacteria on teeth. I don't know which person's reply you're reading. Obviously not mine. I did say that despite its benifits for cleaning off teeth, it is unhealthy to ingest in any dose.
Do you not see the contradiction in this statement? You say that it has beneficial health effects (killing bacteria that cause decay) then you say that fluoride is unhealthy to ingest at any dose and then offer no hard evidence to support that statement. Your statement itself is what I am reading and the others that imply things, like:
SODIUM FLUORIDE IS BAD FOR YOUR BRAIN. FLUORIDE SHOULDN'T BE IN WATER. Denying this is ludicrous.
First off, salt is NaCl. Sodium Chloride. So I have no idea where you get your table salt shit from. Second, of course dental associations around the world would recommend it, in TOOTH PASTE, not in drinking water. Like I said before, you don't swallow tooth paste. There is a warning label on all fluoridated tooth paste that warns against it.
Jesus. I know what table salt is. COUNTRIES IN EUROPE FLUORIDATE THEIR SALT! It was in the link I posted before!!!!!
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/teeth/caries/who-dmft.htmlMan, you're skull is thick. You really cannot read. It's really, really hard to argue against someone who is semi-literate:
http://www.fluoridationcenter.org/papers/2001/antifluoride.htmlNorway
The Directorate of Health in Norway recommends water fluoridation. ". . .No political decision has been made to abandon fluoridation in Norway, and the Norwegian Dental Association supports fluoridation as a safe, effective and efficient public health measure."
And more hyperbole from you:
Wrong. Arsenic is another horrible poison that hundreds of millions of Americans willingly ingest every day in their cigarettes. But of course you don't have much of an imagination so I have to connect the dots for you.
Hundreds of millions? LMFAO. Man, there are 360 million Americans in the US... Cigarettes and drinking water aren't even related. There isn't a government program to put arsenic in cigarettes. You're funny. And sad.
I don't know where you get this. I never said your inventing it. I read the report. It's credible. There is definately more than just fluoride in our water. I have a distiller and for every gallon of water I distill, there is a tablespoon of particulate left over. So yeah, there's probably also medicine in out water. THAT ADDS CREDIBILITY TO THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY'RE PLACING MOOD STABILIZERS IN OUR WATER.
Who is THEY!? Omg, when you take a shit when you are on Prozac, some of it leaves your body. When you piss after taking a viagra it leaves your body. That is how it gets in the drinking water. The problem is that the water is NOT TREATED to remove these things. That's where your argument crumbles. Instead of saying that fluoride shouldn't be in the water because it is unhealthy, which you have yet to demonstrate conclusively, you say that there is a conspiracy to put MOOD STABILIZERS in the drinking water. What about the antibiotics?! What about the heart attack medicine?! What purpose do those things serve in "their" grand plan.
Fluoride isn't bad in low level dosages, unless of course you ingest it over your entire life. No studies have been done by what you would call "credible sources" on the long term effects of fluoridation ingestion. That's not my fault. Remember, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. AND I SAID NOTHING about acute health problems. Why the fuck are you putting words in my mouth?
How do you reconcile this statement with this:
SODIUM FLUORIDE IS BAD FOR YOUR BRAIN. FLUORIDE SHOULDN'T BE IN WATER.
Man, you backtrack over and over and contradict yourself over and over. Why do people, who have no evidence say "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence". Golly Gee! ...congrats, you have used the Argument from Ignorance. Now go get some evidence to support your claims instead of trying to play rhetorical games. The Argument from Ignorance is the last stand of those who really, really want their argument to be true but have nothing. Sorry, you have nothing, you admit that you have nothing and that is where this stands.
Why would you want a dentist's opinion on fluoride toxicity? They make money recommending the shit. Wouldn't you rather have, say, a chemist or a toxicologist explain the adverse side effects of fluoride? No, you wouldn't, because you're just arguing to argue. To smear my name.
Fine, it doesn't have to be by dentists, but a dental study about the effects of fluoride would certainly deal with toxicology and pharmacology. Dentists go through rigorous medical training and there are qualified researchers, but you assume that none of them could somehow be neutral. A research scientist makes no money from GIVING FLUORIDE! They make money from doing research! H Something... Either way, you don't have any broadbased study. NEXT. I didn't mention your name and didn't come into this thread until you said something about me. I am attacking you and your "argument" because you mentioned my name for some reason.
The only "patently false" thing you claim I said was that fluoride isn't allowed in Canada and Europe. I've already addressed that one. Which claims have I made that are patently false? The only claim I make is: fluoride is bad for ingestion period. It shouldn't be in drinking water.
You claim, through implication, that there is a government plan to use fluoride to control the population either through toxicity or mood stabilization. That is patently false and there is ZERO evidence to support that assertion/implication.
Again, I will not argue that it is not poisonous in high dosages. Water is poisonous in high dosages. Salt is poisonous in high dosages. Selenium is poisonous in high dosages. Iron is poisonous in high dosages. Zinc is poisonous in high dosages. Uranium is poisonous in high dosages. It doesn't prove that fluoride in low dosages is poisonous even longitudinally, even minimally.
Using your logic, we should stop drinking water because it can kill you. HYPONATREMIA, OMG! STOP DRINKING WATER!
What wild statements did I make? I haven't backed from anything that I've said. You know what I call "misinformation" is making up what the other person is arguing about and then attacking that to smear his name. You might as well be calling me a "terrorist." Not once did I make an outrageous claim. Your first retort says that your not here to debate the health benifits, or lack there of, of fluoride. Well fuck you then, because that's why I'm here. You're just trying to smear my name, as usual.
What wild statements? Well, since you asked:
SODIUM FLUORIDE IS BAD FOR YOUR BRAIN.
Sodium fluoride was first used in the water supply by the Nazis in concentration camps. Later it was used in the Russian Gulags.
Show me any medical website that isn't owned by a pharmaceutical company or study that wasn't published by our government that says fluoride isn't bad for the brain. You can't.
So, the validity of a study to you is determined by who funds it and not the methodology or results? That's funny.
But, here's a quote from a consumer reports study:
"The simple truth is that there's no 'scientific controversy' over the safety of fluoridation. The practice is safe, economical, and beneficial. The survival of this fake controversy represents, in CU's opinion, one of the major triumphs of quackery over science in our generation."
- Consumer Reports: A Two Part Report on Fluoridation. July 1978 & August 1978; Consumers Union; Mount Vernon, New York 10550.
Just because I'm not including all the information about the tap water doesn't mean that I'm not completely right about fluoride being horrible for human consumption.
There, that's a pretty good list.
As for smearing names fucko:
Why is it you and GOS always show up on the conspiracy, counter-culture-type threads with these insulting statements? At least GOS brings information to the table.
That is what brought me into this. That. So stop playing like I gave two shits about your dipshit fluoride theories before you mentioned my name. I have never made a callout thread about you, but sadly, I cannot say the same about you. You're pathetic. You, who started this fight are crying when I slam you. You don't want to interact with me, then keep my name OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.
http://www.immortal-technique.com/forum/index.php/topic,1044.0.htmlhttp://www.immortal-technique.com/forum/index.php/topic,195.msg3945.html#msg3945http://www.immortal-technique.com/forum/index.php/topic,1210.msg13482.html#msg13482There are some of your call out threads. Get off my dick.
You were never in my camp. The first bit of pop culture speaking out against 9/11 truth and you ran to the crowd in order to fit in. You're just a social-slave (and no I'm not making a comment about your skin color, I'm making a statement about your position in our society, so don't get all pissy). I've read the NIST in its entirety. I've been to every site you're posted that "debunks" 9/11. None of it is truth. The reason I'm so sold on the fact that 9/11 was a false-flag terror attack is because I've read all the debunking and I've read entire sections of the NIST report that unintentionally admit that the buildings couldn't have been brought down by the airplanes. YOu have no idea what type of reading I've done, what I know, or what I believe. YOu just lump me in with all of the other 9/11 Truthers because in order to attack me, that's all you know to do.
Do you know my position on 9/11? And I am tired of talking about this with you. You do more damage to your own argument than I ever could. You make claims like "I've read all of it and none of it is true". No fucker. You have no evidence to support that claim, so SIT THE FUCK DOWN. I lump you into the 9/11 truth category because you believe it was a "false flag operation"...that's the CENTRAL PREMISE OF 9/11 TRUTH YOU FUCKING IDIOT!
Capitalists don't want to kill their consumers. Our world leaders aren't capitalists, they're fascists. Fascists care about nothing but killing the people of our world. THat's why at every single war memorial in AMerica, there's a sacrifice goddess riding a horse overlooking it. That why at the police memorial in my home town of Austin is placed within an upside down pentagram. If you don't believe me Google Earth it. THese people care nothing but to murder as many people as they can.
You don't know what fascism is. I'll give you a good link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FascismAs for the war memorial tripe, why don't YOU post the evidence. But do it in another thread, because it will be completely irrelevant. Let's see a pick of this "sacrifice goddess" over the Vietnam War memorial. Or the WWII War memorial. "These people"...lmfao.
WHat kind of movement are you apart of? The Anarchist movement? The communist party? THose movements have been around for hundreds of years and have accomplished nothing but disconnection people and creating new enemies for the elite to use against us. What are you doing for those movements? I haven't seen one post ever from you that does anything but try and debunk "conspiracy theorists". What political realities am I silent about? I've commented on every single political issue on this website.
Wow, you really don't know dick about socialism do you? Or trade unionism. Or black nationalism. You don't know much about a great deal.
I have over 5000 posts on this site. 99% of them are outside of this section. You don't have legs to stand on with that load of donkey shit.
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Those are your stats. You spend the majority of your time in media, 9/11 and conspiracism. You are responsible for 2.4% of the 9/11 activity...you haven't done much anywhere. You haven't commented on a great deal here... to say otherwise is just silly. Well, that's what you are...silly.
Here are mine:
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The reason why I am responsible for so much of the 9/11 activity is because you fuckers cannot keep my name out of your mouth!
My viewpoint is "farthest fringe" of social thinking for a reason. It's the only train of thought that attacks the source of all of our social problems outright. My thoughts are the most dangerous to the establishment. Just think about it. The economic elite have been in control of war and poverty for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. It's in out history books. It's not even denied. What is more dangerous to them? Arguing about whether blacks are treated right in America and getting in fights about which religion is right, or pointing out the fact that our world's royal familes are more powerful than they've ever been and that they are the cause of all the evil in our world?
This is why you are a joke. You elevate your importance to levels that are undeserved and then say that the struggle of black people in the US is irrelevant because of the "royal families" in the world are more powerful than ever. FUCK YOU. That is all, fuck you.
Anyways. Just stop inventing things that i've said. You're the one filling the site with misinformation. If people felt that way about me then why haven't they written a thread about it? THey sure did one for you...
I am not inventing anything. THat's what you do. People don't start threads about you because you are irrelevant and a joke. You don't have any pull here and no one respects your absurd opinions. You did that to yourself. You can think that people are care enough about you to do things, but they just ignore you. Here's my last request: don't speak about me, about my name or about what I do here and I will not speak to you. You make a ridiculous thread, I will comment on it and in an impersonal way. I am tired of you, you are annoying and pathetic. This wouldn't have even happened if you wouldn't have said anything to me. But you had to, because you think that knocking me off or making me look bad will somehow increase your rep here. PFFFT.
