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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2008, 09:37:18 PM »

herbal party pills which are sold legally in shops (will be illegal soon) which supposedly gives the same high as P and E (totally bullshit).  They give you hell of a hang over the next day and makes you have stinky pooz.  Real E is totally better!
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2008, 09:38:50 PM »

oh yeah I heard about that shit ... stick to da chems i say.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2008, 09:39:54 PM »

My chem days r over tho
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2008, 09:42:54 PM »

yeah god, tell me about it.
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2008, 12:43:46 AM »

my intentions of this thread was more than to highlight just how prodominent alocohol comsupmtion, but really discuss the matters whihc lead to over comspuntion.


setut- what you said bout booze being more intense than any other drug is so true its not even funny. ive tried pills, coke, speed, shrooms, 2ci, 2ct-t2 and t7, amt, dmt, salvia and just about anything else i could get my hand on, and yes i agree that when i completely rat arsed on beer or southern comfort n coke it does not even compare to the rest. its just people dont really realise how instesnse it is cuz they are so used to it.

boudicca- again, so true its not even funny.


what i wanna add is whether or not you think taht society send out a "lets get drunk" message across the boards. as thats the way i feel. everywhere i look i see signs encouraging us to drink.

to all the pisshea...i mean drinkers, do you think if it were ALWAYS ilegal would you still drink today?  i.e whati wanna discuss is whether or not everyone drinks as merely a means to conform to the norm
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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2008, 01:03:07 AM »

You can drink to conform to a norm and you can drink because they like the effects.

If someone always talks about how drunk they were just to say they were drunk, then they are drinking to conform. If someone says they drink to tell a funny story or because they don't give a shit, then they probably aren't trying to conform.



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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2008, 02:30:07 AM »

ut do you think you would still drink even if it had always been legal?

you know if as a kid you had a constant "alcohol leads to heroin OD" lesson since the age of 7?
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2008, 03:17:56 AM »

I think Western society uses alcohol as a token for celebration. So the idea of some level of inebriation is seen as necessary to have a 'good time'. The reason it's so celebrated is because most other forms of getting wasted have been criminalised and stimatised. If they really gave a fuck about our safety they'd legalize weed and have everyone smoking out of free government issued vaporizers. But instead this 'illegal drugs' mentality persists, with most people not even considering alcohol to be a drug.

Maybe part of the problem in dealing with it is that they've banned all other substances. The only logical paths they can go down now is...1) they repeal the criminalization of other drugs (NOT gonna happen)   or ... 2) they'll eventually have to criminalise alcohol, which is hard because these soul-dead fucken emotionally crippled Westerners have NO OTHER WAY TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.

So this illogical shit will just go on imo.
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2008, 08:34:51 AM »

Finally something I know about...

My father as all of you don't know was an alcohol and drugs councilor for over 20 years. He has a MSW in Social work. Hes dealt with very brutal statistics on the effects of FAS, FAE, Drugs, Alcohol addiction and the everlasting effects in our society.

He also has interesting theories on the fall of the Roman empire and the dark ages; Alcohol/FAS.

My experience with Alcohol was pretty shitty. The first time i got drunk was with my girlfriend. NOT A GOOD THING TO DO for a very not social guy. I made such a fool of my self in front of her friends and ended up making her cry so hard.

I Find it Ironic that I'm working as a behavioral technician. Dealing with Drunk idiots all the time, knowing my dads position. I totally agree that Alcohol is a horrible thing in our existence. I always have idiots coming up to me and asking me, "Wouldn't it be more fun if you were drinking." All i do is pretend that their not their.
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2008, 10:39:26 AM »

ut do you think you would still drink even if it had always been legal?
Yes, I really don't care if it is legal or not.
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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2008, 11:20:02 AM »

you don't have to drink the alcohol you get, you can give it to people like me.  if you don't like drinkin that much i don't think you will get addicted.
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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2008, 09:11:49 PM »

never going to drink or smoke as long as i live. just something i promised myself.
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« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2008, 09:16:53 PM »

never going to drink or smoke as long as i live. just something i promised myself.
Good luck with the next 20 years.
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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2008, 09:18:27 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2008, 09:21:22 PM »

But seriously, it's a good move healthwise .... you'd wanna study up a bit on drugs and shit tho, if this is going to be your chosen path ... just so you have an idea what it's all about.

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« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2008, 10:50:31 PM »

Finally something I know about...

My father as all of you don't know was an alcohol and drugs councilor for over 20 years.

and there is number the number one issue i have with current day society, alcohol and drugs...alcohol AND drugs. shit all they do here is further fool themselves as to what alcohol really does and IS

Yes, I really don't care if it is legal or not.

i laugh at ow easy you think it is, you have not even considered ANY of the issues raised if alcohol had ALWAYS been illegal, such as the question i posed about education stating that "alcohol leads to herion OD"

but allow to elaboarte further and see if you thinks its as simple as...i dont care if its illegal.

just for start, your whole world is different. as a child you would not see your parents drinks socialble at parties at weekends, or just everyday in some cases. the very presence of seeing your peers drinks changes. infact, it woudl not be something that comes wih life, it woudl be a path that YOU and ONLY YOU walk down and see, shit most prob WOULD NEVER see the path, much like most illegals now.

TV and advertisements no longer play any role as its illegal. think about every Tv programme, soap opera and film you watch and just how many inlcude alcohol. in every show in britain, they have local pub/club in which they drink, shit the "queen vic" and "rovers return"almost have international fame.

so not only is the world of alcohol now HIDDEN from you, but we get to my original point of, when they do tell you of this world...its all BAD. alcohol is bad, its leads to harder drugs, posion of liver blah blah blah. now altho you may think differently NOW, i wonder if you would still feel the same after 10 years of PERSISTANT PROGRAMMING to hate booze. everfything you know about acohol, TRUE OR FALSE, is ALL EVIL.

which brings me on to another point WHERE ARE YOU GONNA DRINK? understand that even IF, and thats a big IF, even if you decided to ignore all that evil messages and chose to drink, like you so easily claimed you would, where are you gonna drink? if you really think that life would be the same, with collage parties and keg nights...think again. cuz now NO MORE PARTIES ON CAMPUSS chummey. its all underground now

you have no bars and clubs to go to

YOu cant drink at home cuz your parents think its evil

you cant drink at friends cuz their parents are the same

thus, you are forecd onto the streets, into car parks, into bushes, into abandon warehouses to do your drinking. an this aint just like underage drinking, which in reality is usually accepted, cuz an adult might not report you cuz he thinks its "just kids being kids"  OH NO cuz now ehen you drink


YOUR A FUCKING JUNKIE

your a reject of society, an outcast, a degenarate that is the downfall of humanity, and if you thinks im being a little over kill, then TRUELY you dont understand what it takes to be an illegal drug user.

thsi is just some of the BULLSHIT i put up with, but i encourage others to share their stories so that you can fully understand just what we have to go thru.

when my mum 1st busted me, asside from BEAT MY ASS, nails into skin and all, she grounded me for 2 weeks, not just from social time but form school too

"its your friends at that school that gave it to you wasn't it?"

i went form mummys littel angel, what with my top marks, to being mummies junkie son....and YES try having your mum call you a DISGRACE, and EMBARRESMENT and a JUNKIE to your face man, cuz THAT hurts. i apparently "let my mum down"


then what follows, due to my NOT giving up, is over FOUR YEARS of basically living in a police state household. pockets searched, no money, constant questions and NO TRUST form your own flesh and blood.

and its not just family neither, your friends and work colleuges, your job and DRUG TESTED. i can think of countless guys who are FORCED to give up what ever drug they do at weekends cuz they get drug tested.

HAVE YOU EVEN CONSIDERED THAT.

shit WHY do you think i left aberdeen, cuz EVERY single oil job comes with drug testing. what will  you do then to over come.


perhaps im jum ping the gun a little here, but i ask others to post about what else comes with the use of illegal drugs...besides being called a junkie

I FUCKING HATE THAT. really pissies me off when scumbag cunts INSTANTLY, and i do mean INSTANTLY, think that becuase you drinks that makes you a junkie, that means they can instantly, not matter how pathetic they are, can look down their noses at you. if something goes missing, it must be pierce cuz hes a junkiie now, he needs money to feed his HABIT.

so please consider these factors, pluys i hope more that others post, and then tell me if you think you woudl still drink.

shit man weed as HUNDREDS of positive uses, and yet i bet you hear about nothing except the bad side.


have you tried weed, coke , pills, or any other drugs?

if not why?

and what makes you think you woudl view alcohol ANY different that what you think NOW about shooting up heroin. cuz in schools THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE
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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2008, 10:53:05 PM »

Actually small amounts of red wine daily have been shown to improve health.

But to answer your question, Sat, I do think that alcohol is thrown in our faces 24/7.  I mean, in America it's illegal for cigarettes to advertise, like, ANYWHERE.  But everywhere I go I see the cute ponies advertising Budweiser.  If a talking camel is going to get kids to smoke, how much more will ponies make kids want to drink?  Stupid double standard.  Either it's okay for us to kill our brain cells or it isn't.  They need to make up their damn minds.

And if alcohol was illegal I probably wouldn't bother with it.  If everything was illegal there are far better (and safer) things to do than drink.

Really, everything should just be legal.  Darwinism at it's best.
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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2008, 11:36:48 PM »

Just to give a glimpse of what illegal alcohol would look like....

speakeasy was an establishment that was generally used for selling and drinking alcoholic beverages during the period of United States history known as Prohibition (1920-1933,[1] longer in some states), when the sale, manufacture, and transportation of alcohol was illegal. The term comes from a patron's manner of ordering alcohol without raising suspicion — a bartender would tell a patron to be quiet and "speak easy".

Speakeasies became more popular and numerous as the Prohibition years progressed, and also became more commonly operated by those connected to organized crime. Although police and United States Federal Government agents would raid such establishments and arrest the owners and patrons, the business of running speakeasies was so lucrative that such establishments continued to flourish throughout the nation. In major cities, speakeasies were often elaborate, offering food, live bands,floor shows, and strip joints. The police corruption at this time was notoriously rampant; speakeasy operators commonly bribed police to either leave them alone or at least give them advance notice of any planned raids.

In the United States, there are still 37 standing speakeasies from the 1920s.[citation needed] There are 23 in New York, New York, 13 in Pennsylvania, and one single hush hush bar in the western portion of D.C. Another slang term for an establishment similar to a speakeasy is blind pig. The difference between a speakeasy and a blind pig is that a speakeasy was usually a higher class establishment, where a blind pig was a lower class dive.
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« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2008, 12:15:55 AM »

never going to drink or smoke as long as i live. just something i promised myself.

 i used to think that, seriously this guy i know form primary schools jokes as too how much weed i smoke now and when i was younger i swore i'd take NO DRUGS.



oh and 2 last point pierce

CAN YOU HANDLE BEING A CRMINIAL.


i got 3 convictions for possesion and what that means 1st and fore most im in the system, i will AUTOMATICALLY get rejected for ANY pharmaceutecal job.

i WILL NOT be granted access to ceratin countries including your own.

and i have/had to LIE on every single job application form ive filled in. shit mna i even had to LIE to the university as they even ask "have you any criminal convictions"

is this something you can handle for tha sake of a drink.

also can you handle buying from a black market. ther is no more corrona, no more smirnoff, NO MORE ANYTHING.

what you now have to drink is homemade MOONSHINE and beer. that means the likelyhood of you getting alcohol poisoning is increased DRAMATICALLY.

shit hash in britain contains soil, boot polish and plastics, imagine what your homemade spirits woudl be made from.


san pat- i am FULLY aware of just how useless the prohibition was in combatting alchohol sales. infact i often use this as an example of why prohobtion DOES NOT WORK

hence go back and read what i sai d i noticed that i said ALWAYS illegal

is that clear enuff for you

what you speak of is an industry simply ADJUSTING to fit NEW restictions


in this world THERE IS NO INDUSTRY

THERE ARE NO BARTENDERS

THERE ARE NO BRANDS/LABELS

in NO WAY WHATSOEVER does the prohobition reflect/resemble/match what it woudl be like if alcohol had the same reputation and legality as heroin.
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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2008, 10:15:15 AM »

Dude Sat, I know you've had some bad experiences but I think you are being a little irrational right now.

As for drugs, I have tried both legal and illegal drugs because as long as I use the ones I take in moderation, they are safe. I do not consciously take drugs for any other reason then self enjoyment and I rarely talk about my drug use unless the conversation has already been brought up.

I am obviously taking a risk doing these but I do them in such a manner that there is a slight chance I get caught.
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The first recorded version of rap music came alive in the early 1980s when DJs decided to make records out of their freestyle MCing. This necessitated the documentation of song lyrics so they do not change during each and every rendition. The age of the stromanbieter for rap music was gone paving the way for more organized chaos. Still, the freestyle and improvisation element remained a part of many DJ interludes as the song goes through certain sections that did not require too much rap singing.

Likewise, as a consequence of the hip-hop records, the influence of rap began to spread faster than ever before. Artists no longer had to travel far to get their music heard. Now, records from New York City and Philadelphia can be reproduced and transported to cities like Los Angeles, New Orleans, Dallas, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., and Seattle among others for people to appreciate and enjoy. This was primarily the reason for rap music’s rapid growth. Like Christmas mini lights, cities formed the nodes through which rap music would spread to other parts of the country. From small beginnings to grand achievements, the birth certificate translation to true stardom took a matter of years for rap music to be realized. Since then, its take-off and rise has been meteoric.

In this regard, it is almost impossible to talk about rap music but not discuss the golden age of rap. This was the era from the late 1980s to the mid 1990s when rap grew at an astounding rate fueled by the creative contributions of many artists from all over the continental United States and in many parts of the world. The primary trait of the Golden Age or Rap was that it was an almost unbroken wave of transformative music with every single pushing the boundaries of the genre. From this age and in the succeeding Gansta Rap age came names like Run-D.M.C., Dr. Dre, Ice T, MC Hammer, The Wu-tang Clan, Snoop Dogg, and The Notorious B.I.G. among others. The list of names can virtually fill a Sharepoint Hive without any problems.

According to social studies published in 2005, teenagers and children are more familiar with hip-hop and rap music more than any other musical genre. Up to 65% of all children from ages 8 to 18 hear hip-hop music on a daily basis, making it their routinary keratin hair treatment session, almost to the point that it has become an intrinsic part of their lives. With the diversification of the genre to include the more stylish R&B or rhythm and blues, it is not difficult to explain how rap music has continued to pervade radio station, TV and movie song line-ups. The marriage of rap and jazz which paved the way for R&B is itself a phenomenon that warrants all sorts of social analysis.

And with its very strong following, it is safe to say that rap music is here to stay. Years from now, when you open your TV on a bright Saturday morning, there’s a big chance you would be watching the next stage in the evolution of rap music, and there’s an even better chance you would be dancing or singing to that tune.

Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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