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« on: January 26, 2008, 11:05:33 AM »

So last night I took some of my students to see Madeline Albright, the first female Secretary of State in the US and first female US envoy to the UN.  It was at this swanky hotel in San Francisco, The Fairmont.  I am standing out front under an awning waiting for my students to arrive, and this white man walks up to me and says "I just parked my car right there, do I give you the keys?"  I said, "Do I look like I work here?"  He was somewhat shocked, but he apologized and walked off. 

It's 2008 and white people still see a black face and assume subservience.  This is the type of psychological warfare that black people have to endure every single day that white people will never understand.  I could possibly understand his actions if I had a god damn valet jacket on or a bellhop's uniform, but I was wearing a nice jacket, a polo shirt and nice jeans.  It was absurd.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2008, 11:28:06 AM »

damn that sucks.

some shit like that happened to me too.  I was at the store grabbing some shit to bbq at my friends house.  When I got to his apartment I had to get buzzed since he lives in the back.  There was this white guy sitting on his balcony right next to the front entrance.  I walked up hit the buzzer and he looks at me and says, "right here dude, I ordered the Tios."  Tios is a Mexican restaurant that delivers here.  I was so fucking pissed I started yelling at his bitch and went back inside.  My friends wouldn't let it go they thought it was hilarious.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2008, 01:06:19 PM »

you shouldda taken his car and gone on another field trip with your students
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2008, 01:16:30 PM »

Yeah, next time that happens, definitely take the car Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2008, 01:31:35 PM »

you shouldda taken his car and gone on another field trip with your students

Too bad if he did the white guy woulda called the cops and put out a detailed description: "Black male, approximately 5'6 to 6'7, between 18 and 38 years old."
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2008, 01:48:47 PM »

Actually GOS, you should've taken his keys but not done shit with his car.  I'm guessing if he was expecting valet and they didn't have it yet is car is right out front then they would've towed.  LOL then that way he'd have to find his car and his keys.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2008, 02:05:57 PM »

I was debating if I should throw them into the street after he walked off...oh well.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2008, 02:12:16 PM »

I would have stood there ignoring him and make him waste his time trying to talk to me. While I stare aimlessly around him so then he has to try and make eye contact.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2008, 03:37:30 PM »

I could possibly understand his actions if I had a god damn valet jacket on or a bellhop's uniform, but I was wearing a nice jacket, a polo shirt and nice jeans.  It was absurd.

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i think you did the right thing. not necessarilly what i'd do if i was in ur situation, but you could have potentially made a white man a little bit less racist. if you would have gone done something naughty with the keys/car...well his thoughts would probably be "typical black man behaviour." let's face it, the actions of 1 minority member is what most people base their opinions on about the whole race.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2008, 05:36:32 PM »

I know you're a civilized and an educated man GoS, but you should have pissed on his car and the keys, all over the seats and the outside too.

Then you should have purchased an apple pie, and give the kids a valuable lesson by explaining that the pie is not really golden because it bakes for so long, but because of collective golden showering.

edit: then you should have fucked his wife.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2008, 09:38:30 PM »

Gos,

I can't relate to this at all because I am white. But I can't help feeling a sense of superiority in the initial post and the reaponces.  Is being a valet beneath yall?
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2008, 09:42:04 PM »

Don't get me wrong what he did was because you are black and was racist but you nor I are any better than a valet.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2008, 10:20:52 PM »

JC you're tripping, I don't see where GOS says he's superior to a valet attendant or anything like that.

When I'm out shopping (which is rarely) someone always asks me if I work wherever it is I'm shopping at, always, no matter how I'm dressed. Oh and I love it when white people ask me if I speak english, and even talk amongst themsevles "I dont think he speaks english."

my only question to you GOS is...why the fuck would you want to take your students to see Madeline Albright for? Huh
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2008, 11:16:03 PM »

JC, you miss the entire point.  I didn't LOOK like a valet.  It ain't got anything to do with me making a value judgment on the profession.  I was wearing street clothes and the man tried to hand me his keys.  No, uniform, no red jacket, no whistle, just street clothes.  You can take it that way, but it's obvious that the only value judgment I was throwing was against the white dude who thought that I was a valet because I am black.  If you are a valet and in a hotel union, more power to you, I could give a fuck what your job is actually. 

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2008, 11:45:48 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2008, 07:52:20 AM »

Gos,

Would you have been insulted if he mistook you for the hotel owner? I may not be articulating this properly but it seems that the only insult was not just him assuming you were something you aren't, but that it was the assumption that you GOS, an educated, intellegent man would be taken for a valet.

And nice bullshit missdirection at the end of your post. I am not falling into that off topic argument bait.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2008, 08:07:36 AM »

The guy was being associative - in the racist form. Since GOS wasn't wearing a valets uniform, which ALL valets, to my understanding, are required to wear, then there was something about GOS that this guy was associating with the valet profession. One factor is that he is linked with the hotel by being there, but that's not enough to give a key to somebody.
The other most likely factor is that he is a black man.

Black people aren't associated with ownership or management. Black people are associated with being subservient (like valeting), and that is the point I think.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2008, 01:22:34 PM »

Gos,

Would you have been insulted if he mistook you for the hotel owner? I may not be articulating this properly but it seems that the only insult was not just him assuming you were something you aren't, but that it was the assumption that you GOS, an educated, intellegent man would be taken for a valet.

And nice bullshit missdirection at the end of your post. I am not falling into that off topic argument bait.

Wow, white man without a clue. Shocking.

Look, it's easy for you, as a white man, shrouded your whole life in the comfortable cover of white privilege, to view the situation so superficially, when it really runs far deeper. You can't understand why the ignorant white guy hit a nerve, and you probably never will. What it boils down to is that this white man--blissfully ignorant and a perfect example of the typical, privileged white man--naturally assumed that GoS--a black man--must be in a subservient role to the white man. After hundreds of years of slavery, virtual apartheid, and even today, the white man still views the black man as the servant. ("Yessuh boss-a, sho would love to park tha car for ya, suh!")

See, it doesn't matter if GoS was Yale-educated, a plumber, or actually a valet driver. The point is that this white man--conditioned his whole life to view the black man in a subservient role--naturally assumed that this black man, even though he was not wearing a valet uniform, must be the valet driver. I can guarantee you that, had this ignorant white man seen a WHITE person in GoS's place, wearing the same exact clothes, he would most certainly NOT jump straight to the assumption that he must be the valet. Why? Because, simply put: black=servant, white=master.

This is not a class issue; it is a race issue. Attempting to confuse these two issues (although they are often very closely connected, but not the same thing) is a typical white liberal tactic (not accusing you of being a white liberal, understand, I'm just saying that this is common among white liberals) who are afraid to deal with the reality of the common perception of those marginalized groups who they claim are their "allies"... afraid, even, to deal with their own perceptions of their colored contemporaries.
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2008, 01:35:47 PM »

i have a question. And i want this clear, i dont want anyone (esp. Jihad or Marcos) to jump down my throat for this, cuz it is simply a question, not me challenging GoS.

This wouldn't be such an issue had a black man done this to a white man would it? For instance, say a Yale educated white male was standing in GoS' spot and a black male said "Park this for me". I mean, im not trying to derive from what happened to GoS, cuz i understand that what the dude did was extremely racist, but had the races been switched, it wouldn't have been that bad? even though its the same exact action?
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2008, 01:42:21 PM »

Wow, white man without a clue. Shocking.

Look, it's easy for you, as a white man, shrouded your whole life in the comfortable cover of white privilege, to view the situation so superficially, when it really runs far deeper. You can't understand why the ignorant white guy hit a nerve, and you probably never will.

i'm a white american and i honestly believe that i understand 100% what it is about and why GoS (and any other black man) is offended because it was obviously racist.

i have a question. And i want this clear, i dont want anyone (esp. Jihad or Marcos) to jump down my throat for this, cuz it is simply a question, not me challenging GoS.

This wouldn't be such an issue had a black man done this to a white man would it? For instance, say a Yale educated white male was standing in GoS' spot and a black male said "Park this for me". I mean, im not trying to derive from what happened to GoS, cuz i understand that what the dude did was extremely racist, but had the races been switched, it wouldn't have been that bad? even though its the same exact action?

no. it wouldn't have been bad AT ALL if it happened to a white man. how could it be bad? it would just be a stupid white dude thinking wrong about another mans profession. no racism involved.

in this case however, it was purely racist. the point is - it ONLY happened because GoS is black. if he had been a white man standing there, it would have never happened.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

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The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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