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« on: February 09, 2008, 10:20:48 AM »

He is filming and spreading information presented by the ones he wants to supposedly wants to 'enslave' again.   




McKinney has since left the Democratic party and is now running for President as a member of the Green Party.  I wonder why this informaion hasn't been posted already especially by any of the Green party members and supporters here on the forum?

See here annoucement here:


I was truly moved by the speaker and if I was going to vote for somebody it will probably be her. Watch the video and post thoughts on it. 
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2008, 11:35:27 AM »

RMX, you don't believe Alex Jones is racist?
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2008, 12:50:18 PM »

RMX, her interests are inline with white interests. That doesn't nullify the fact that Alex Jones is a racist, which could be noted if you listen to his radio shows.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2008, 01:25:23 PM »

I do believe that Alex Jones displays racist tendencies and hold racist beliefs.  However, I also believe that people who continue to classify themselves as so-called 'white' (and disregard their African origins) also feed into the racist/WS system agenda hence making them just as culpable (albeit not at the same magnitude)  as AJ and they too can be labeled racist.  (Please note:  you asked what I believe)  
 
With that said, if AJ is such a blatant racist why is it that he is able to post information and hold dialogue  with such self-aware, socially-councious persons such as McKinney and Paris?  Does he not realize that both of those persons will at the end of the day fight to combat what supposedly AJ is such a staunch supporter (agent) of, to wit: racism/WS?

As much as I promote Afri-centric beliefs on this board I have claimed and demonstrated that I can and do work with people from any so-called race, to include 'whites'.   Some have even attempted to call me a racist of some sort because I hold these Afri-centric* views but what they fail to realize that while they are pointing the finger at me or Jones for that matter, efforts are being made to bring down that 'invisible wall' of racism by reaching across created racial divisions and working together towards a common-shared, greater good.  

In short, don't focus too much or attribute racism/WS on the individual (although each are accountable) but rather aim to destroy the institutions that create, promote, and gain from such systems and agencies.   As long as people (of all so-called races) continue to fall into this 'trap' the system of racism/WS will continue unabated and key matters for empowerment and advancement will be overshadowed as the case here has shown thus far.  

Instead of focusing on the fact that AJ posted Ms. McKinney's profound speech on InfoWars, you instead went for the rather smaller issue on whether or not AJ is a racist. I thik it is time we get past that.     Don't you agree, Mr. I don't trust white people?


*The Afri-centric views that I hold are, at the most fundamental level, the basis for all of humanity.  All the evidence suggests that human origins are found in Africa and that since humans (as we know it) have African origins it is only logical to consider that long period of human existence as a key component of all of human history and development.  The notion that people (so-called white and black) neglect this critical component only aides in the Euro-centric (the ulitmate benefactors of racism/WS ) agenda of divide and conquer.  In this instance, I strongly believe in equitable distribution of history and 'truth'.  I have no problem working with anybody, of any 'race' in reaching this goal.  

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Now what do you think about McKinney's speech and presidential announcement?  
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RMX, her interests are inline with white interests. That doesn't nullify the fact that Alex Jones is a racist, which could be noted if you listen to his radio shows.

Please show how her interest are inline with so-called whites and at the same time neglect the needs of people of color?   People do share common concerns, and as long as people are members of parties, vote, and support (or not)  candidates all must be considered.   

Bob do you listen to AJ's shows?  Are you a supporter of a racist?  You are focusing on the individual here something I believe you have discouraged in the past, am I right? 
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2008, 05:07:57 PM »

Why are you giving credit to Alex Jones?  He is posting the speech?  Great.  Does that mean that he should get credit for the content?  Hell no.  I love how you come with an accusatory tone and even defend Alex Jones instead of just going to the youtube link and posting the original speech without AJ.  You care more about proving that AJ is right or somehow not a hypocritical racist who, one could argue, is trying to get black people on his side so that they will support his racist border policies. 
 
Ever heard of the word "pandering"?

I could make a strong argument that he is trying to play black people off against latinos. 

Which is what he is doing with articles like this:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/220107mexicangangs.htm

Which are highly inflammatory and cast all undocumented immigrants as opponents of black people.

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But you are falling for the okey doke and supporting someone who is openly agitating black and brown strife.

As for Mckinney.  I was well aware of her candidacy, but I voted for Nader in the primary here.  He won the California primary with 67% of the vote. I support her as a Green Vice Presidential candidate.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2008, 05:13:05 PM »

Did I suggest McMickey was opposed to Black interests? No, rather he position against war is inline with white interests. I honestly don't know how you can understand that.

Second, I listened to AJ show in the past in order to understand his position. His stance on the "illegals" is downright racist especially considering his people are the real illegals. In this case, we could safely classify him as a racist, because for most parts, we don't understand most individual whites position. That is why valid generalizations were used. However, AJ is clearly a raicst.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2008, 11:36:26 AM »

Did I suggest McMickey was opposed to Black interests? No, rather he position against war is inline with white interests. I honestly don't know how you can understand that.

You wrote:  her interests are inline with white interests
 How is being against the war a white interest?  Are people of color not against this war as well?   By writing 'white' you are suggesting a division in interest that really, at is most fundamental level, is truly a human (for humanity regardless of color) interest.  If anything, the pro-war stance is more so in favor of a narrow 'white' interest as it benefits the ruling corporate elite class which is composed almost entirely of people who classify themselves as 'white'.  Furthermore, the war is attacking or rathering targeting people of color.  How is being against the war inline with 'white' interest?   To me that doesn't make sense and it doesn't ring true.   


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Second, I listened to AJ show in the past in order to understand his position. His stance on the "illegals" is downright racist especially considering his people are the real illegals. In this case, we could safely classify him as a racist, because for most parts, we don't understand most individual whites position. That is why valid generalizations were used. However, AJ is clearly a raicst.


Almost everything that comes from so-called 'whites' to include the self-classification and subscribing to calling oneself 'white' is racist in nature ( I am speaking generally here. Calling oneself 'white' is to side with the privledge that comes with such classification and promotes the created social-construct that is inherently racist and divisive  in nature).  And unless one is totally ignorant of human origins, to call oneself white is short-sighted and dismissive of a long often neglected, substantial portion of human history.   And in the case that someone else classifies you 'as white' and one goes along with it--it only feeds the system of racism/WS as race classification, and it's implication, is a racist tool/position as well.   

So while you can say(and I agree) that AJ is a racist, will you or will you not agree that subscribing to the ways and means of inherently racist tools/systems is racist as well?   You yourself often cite 'academia' as a credible source when we know that deep withing the bowels of academia is where the racist agenda is theorized and published.   The few 'sincere' (realized) scholars that sporadically appear every now and then are quickly overwhelmed and stiffled with the proponderance of racist literature already well established and accepted as the social 'white' norm, and 'truth'.

AJ is an individual, pointing him out as a racist is nearly pointless and redundant.   With that said, I am not defending AJ, he has to be corrected as well, but atleast AJ,the racist, offers (or is a facilitator to more relevant truthful, alternative information ) than say CNN and other sources who clearly wanted only to smear Ms. McKinney since speaking in the interst of the people, whether white or of color.   (Hell even Gos is supporting her for vice-president [although she is running for president] Does Gos fall in line with white interest as well?)

Do a youtube search (word: McKinney) and you will see that the only version of that speech is the one that was recorded by InfoWars.  If it wouldn't have been for this racist individual, we may have never seen or heard of this speech. This doesn't excuse his personal racist stance but it kinda shields that person somewhat because unlike many other racist persons and institution (to with: MSM) he atleast facilitates some relevant information (as the case with McKinney and Paris previously)  What his motivations remain unclear, any suggestions are simply speculation.  What is known is that he is reaching out to people who represent ideals that I can support.  Just like I read National Geographic, Time, or watch MSNBC,  I watch AJ as well.  I never forget that at the core it is racist but I still try to take the good from it and give credit where credit is due.  Let's attack the institutions that create and benefit from racist systems and tools and focus less on the individual.   

But what's the point in me saying that, you will still maintain your position and methods regardless even though I am saying something very similar to what you always profess with some minor revisions. 

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I could make a strong argument that he is trying to play black people off against latinos.

Which is what he is doing with articles like this:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/220107mexicangangs.htm

Which are highly inflammatory and cast all undocumented immigrants as opponents of black people.

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I can make an argument showing that the notion of racial classification (white, black, latino??, etc) play all people of color against each while consolidating the force that fall under the 'white' banner.   We even have white-latinos, black-latinos, etc.  Do you see where this goes?  Are we working within the racist 'white' norms established by the racist or are we going to be a self-determined people and remove the labels that ultimately divide us all? 
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2008, 10:10:28 PM »

I can make an argument showing that the notion of racial classification (white, black, latino??, etc) play all people of color against each while consolidating the force that fall under the 'white' banner.   We even have white-latinos, black-latinos, etc.  Do you see where this goes?  Are we working within the racist 'white' norms established by the racist or are we going to be a self-determined people and remove the labels that ultimately divide us all? 


No, I don't see where you are going with this statement.  In fact, at best it seems to be another defense of AJ, which is silly.

So, how does your statement have anything to do with the fact that AJ is probably big upping Paris and McKinney to do the very thing that you are criticizing?

And I don't want to ever give up my identity.  You can celebrate diversity without it being oppressive.  White people, even if they accept their African roots will never be able to undo history and culture. So your whole point about "only if they accepted that everyone is African" is totally moot because culture has far more power than genetic ancestry.

 It's funny, when you're wrong, and in trying to defend AJ you certainly are, you try to take the conversation in the most irrelevant directions.
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