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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2008, 05:28:13 PM »

I've always wondered if cops would be better off getting paid more.  It seems as though they take out a lot of their financial downs on minorities and the poor but of course the last thing we need are more cops with a better paycheck and still equally as racist.  Firefighters and paramedics get paid like shit too.  I went to nursing school with a guy who was a paramedic and the only reason we went into nursing school was because he maxed out at $17/hour and he was in his late 30's. 
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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2008, 05:37:03 PM »

I've always wondered if cops would be better off getting paid more.

That's a practical proposition. Police don't need to unionize, they only need to raise crime statistics to get a pay rise or get more funding, like they did here in the past. A better paycheck may make the police more complacent. But, really, the whole system should be turned  over. There shouldn't be a 'police'. They are so ineffective.
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« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2008, 06:19:28 PM »

Cops are poorly paid? Their starting salary is around $50k which is slightly over the median household income. I honestly think the real problem with cops is lack of diversity. A policy force that is primarily white in a community that is primarily colour plays a strong role in the corruption.
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« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2008, 07:31:12 PM »

I see about 4 black/hispanic cops in a week and this is NY. Dont even mention asian cops there like finding a 20 dollar bill on the floor.
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2008, 01:06:07 AM »

I've always wondered if cops would be better off getting paid more.  It seems as though they take out a lot of their financial downs on minorities and the poor but of course the last thing we need are more cops with a better paycheck and still equally as racist.  Firefighters and paramedics get paid like shit too.  I went to nursing school with a guy who was a paramedic and the only reason we went into nursing school was because he maxed out at $17/hour and he was in his late 30's. 

If only banning those pigs was a viable option
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2008, 10:04:23 AM »

Cops are poorly paid? Their starting salary is around $50k which is slightly over the median household income. I honestly think the real problem with cops is lack of diversity. A policy force that is primarily white in a community that is primarily colour plays a strong role in the corruption.

I really don't think that's the problem. There are plenty of latino and black cops around and they carry out the same bullshit policies towards us. Police are not necessary. Police only exist because capitalism creates this huge economic disparity.
And Nat, they get paid plenty. They make sure of it. The "war on drugs" alone employs millions of unecessary government workers. Imagine what we could do with all that money instead of arresting millions of people of color for petty drug offenses. We could build more schools and improve the education system, more hospitals, etc. They wouldn't ruin poor people's lives by incarcerating them for minor offenses forcing them to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for bail, fines, court costs, lawyers, making them lose work, get fired, kicked out of school, making it almost impossible to find a job, and ultimately in many cases having them resort to more serious crimes just to eat.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2008, 12:09:00 PM »

There has to be a police system in a capitalistic setup or we would go into chaos or a "wild west" type living. The police and government were originally set up to solely protect people's capital and and property, and without a barrier, even if its symbolic, keeps society somewhat in check. We already know that people will steal capital and property whether it is out of greed or necessity and even though a lot of police officers are very corrupt, they do have an effect on society that is necessary for it to be civil. I do not want to live in an anarcho-capitalistic setup where every person is for his or her self. I do not want to live in a system where I constantly have to be worried about my possessions being stolen or my house broken into. I do not want to live in a society where I feel the need to protect myself. I know that feeling exists in many areas of the US, but idea of police officers is still symbolic. I have personally been in situations where people have tried to break into my apartment and even though I never threatened the cops (that would not be good on many different levels), us knowing of the possibility of them coming possibly kept me from being robbed and beaten. I do not like the police just like I do not like the Federal Reserve or most government programs, but I personally believe that getting rid of them would be worse off than leaving them as is or reform.

If there was a switch to a different setup such as anarchy or any far left society, then there would be no need for police and a community could watch out for itself. There would be no property or capital so those crimes would instantly disappear, all the crimes that dealt with capital or greed would disappear, and crimes out of necessity would disappear as well because they would get support from the community that currently isn't offered as of now. There would still be crime in an anarchical setup, but there would much less of it and it would not solely consist of property or capital crime.
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2008, 12:37:57 PM »

police is just another step toward Fascism, but i agree with pierce because without police i really don't see it being better in any way possible other then we don't have to worry about he consequences of stealing and other shit but for the most part i hate em, especially where i live because they are so fucking bored that they just pull people over for the littlest mistakes on the road and nothing really goes down here in Fargo, other then getting rid of meth which they are getting better and better at getting rid of, they don't do shit here
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2008, 06:58:19 PM »

I really don't think that's the problem. There are plenty of latino and black cops around and they carry out the same bullshit policies towards us. Police are not necessary. Police only exist because capitalism creates this huge economic disparity.
Marcos, I  oppose the police not only because they protect capitalists, but also due to their statist origins. Police ultimately risen from states which are by far the most oppressive political entity throughout our history. 

The reason I suggest that the ethnic make up of the police should change is due to relationship mainly white police force and the white counterpart. Even in white areas where annual incomes are lower than ghettos ( lower tax base source), acts of aggression by the police forces is quite rare. That is because these whites are not a colonized group ala whites.

Now, my suggestion: democratization of the police force is not meant to maintain the force, but rather destroy it. By decentralizing law enforcement to the community, we potentially remove the police forces once they roll back past operations. In other words, resemble those in white communities. Once that occurs, police forces will lose its purpose and would then be eventually folded under our democratic institutions. Right now, most in our community will not accept such radical change.

PS: Excellent position w.rt. law enforcement. Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2008, 07:40:39 AM »

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Those organizations usually reflect the police, i. e, they look out for the same crimes that they are taught is harming them.  There needs to be a radical transformation on what defines crime for any policing service to be theoretically justified.  Community watchdog (like neighbour-hood watch) further divides communities via distrust.  Residents feel they have a 'responsibility to stop crime' and become more skeptical of those characters society suggests are criminals.  And the targeting remains. 

After reading a book called "Wild Swans" I couldn't agree more.  And the resluts can be quite desastrous.  Those tactics were employed during Mao's "cultural revolution" and they led to countless, random and unnecessary torture and death by neighboors seeking revenge for the pettiest of reasons.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

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The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

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