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« on: March 05, 2008, 09:08:59 AM »

My viewpoint is that feminism within the context of capitalism will only stand to reinforce the system, liberal feminism will only result in certain wealthy women given equal privilege to exploit workers to the same degree as male capitalists. This is why many index the "position" of women based on their access to the Fortune 500 club.

But anarchism and libertarian Marxism without feminism will still leave the same patriarchial system in tact, thus not be anarchist in any sense as male domination will still be prevalent.

So my view is that "rank and file feminism" and anarchism are interdependent. Capitalism with feminism will reinforce the system but anarchy without feminism will fail to address the unique needs of women. This same position can be looked at in the context of black and Hispanic liberation. This is why anarchy not only requires self-determination but self-determination requires anarchy.
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2008, 09:21:06 AM »

Definitely.

Female progress pegged to fortune 500 positions, and even higher positions within the state. That is why we Obama or Rice and yet in the socio-economic sphere, Black and colour participation is limited. Symbolic equality, especially in spheres associated with capitalism have nothing to with self-determination.

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Wiseman, no need to use the "actual". Feminism is feminism. You, a male, measuring feminism is only exemplifying male privilege. Not attacking you, but I believe that it's a point that cannot be ignored. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2008, 01:33:45 PM »

Wiseman, no need to use the "actual". Feminism is feminism. You, a male, measuring feminism is only exemplifying male privilege. Not attacking you, but I believe that it's a point that cannot be ignored. Smiley

Point taken, I tried to write this post to the best of my ability without displaying a parental attitude towards feminism. I recognize that I can only participate in these movements of self-determination, not lead or put myself on a superior moral strata.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 02:58:53 AM »

get back in da kitchen!!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 07:07:39 AM »

Ah, good ol' capitalism.

I was bored yesterday and I went to my friend's business class lecture and they were talking about marketing and marketing categories. I zoned out fairly soon and started thinking about these categories for everything. Capitalism reinforces gender divisions, and I wish it was more obvious to some people.

Someone mentioned in other posts how Toys R Us have sections for boys and girls, and not only are they colour coded, they also have specific types of toys in each section. The girls get the joys of babies and barbies, and stoves and hair salon tools, while the boys get cars and other 'masculine toys'.

A friend lent me her copy of Rosario Castellano's book and on the cover, she was praised as one of the MOST IMPORTANT FEMALE WRITERS IN MEXICO. Why does she have to be considered a female writer? Why not just a writer? Mia Hamm, a soccer player was often compared to male soccer stars, she was referred to as the FEMALE Roberto Carlos in one publication. Why can't she just be an outstanding soccer player without comparison to a man?

Beauty products. I compared some ingredients in male and female beauty products, primarily skin care. For many of them, the main difference is only FRAGRANCE, and their design is once again colour coded, and made to appeal a specific sex. We get the pretty pink stuff, while the men get the 'masculine' shapes and colours, something that won't make their friends laugh if they walked into their bathroom and saw a three-step skin care regimen. Am I losing it if I'm suggesting that some cosmetic producs purposely resemble phalluses?

Anyways, my point is that capitalism thrives on these things, on this division and the gap between the sexes. I'd like to see more organization among women, because our only struggle is not pay equity, it also must include women of colour, GLBT communities, women of different classes and ethnic, religious and racial backgrounds. (Among other things, of course).

Question for all:
How have the women organized in your community, has anything been done that you can say impressed you in terms of activism?





yeh i wnated to play with barbie when i was a kid but nobody let me!!! i hatd action man, he was totally gay!!

also, the mia hamm comparison to roberto carlos? most up and coming sports stars get compared to allready big names all the time. when players start to gain publicity, they are often comapred to other players to gain even more publicity. in ten years, when another female left back comes out, she will most likely be compared to Mia Hamm.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 02:18:12 PM »

no? barbie didn't influence little girls to dress in a certain way? they sure did around me...
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 05:17:51 PM »

get back in da kitchen!!!!!
Oh god, i didn't mean that, i was pretty drunk last night!
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 02:12:21 AM »

FUCK barbie yo









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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 05:32:40 AM »

omg u played with her tooo? she was my favourite, i got lea, lilla and shani too, and their stickers all over my room.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 04:08:53 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 07:37:26 PM »

Fun, so since this is the women's debate section its perfectly acceptable to shift the conversation from how capitalism oppresses women to dolls and random drunken sexism?
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2008, 01:55:53 AM »

I'm glad I'm not the only one pointing this bullshit out. Thanks D.
See the reason this would never happen in a discussion about race or religion is that sexism is TOTALLY acceptable in society.  Racism and anti-christianity or antisemitism are seen as HUGE taboos in society, while women being submissive sex objects only to be judged at package value is seen as completely acceptable.  If that wasn't true than places like hooters wouldn't thrive
Oh god, i didn't mean that, i was pretty drunk last night!
What I find is that when somebody says something drunk, there is some truth to it.  Now if you didn't at some core level think of women as submissive you wouldn't be so adamant about having women as sex objects in your various AVI's
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2008, 02:07:41 AM »

Would you rather I call you a lil bastard and say i am proud of the "kitchen" comment instead?  Funny how it's always the male feminist who tries to use the highest pedestal and take out the nazi hammer and try to clear the room.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2008, 02:31:45 AM »

Would you rather I call you a lil bastard and say i am proud of the "kitchen" comment instead?  Funny how it's always the male feminist who tries to use the highest pedestal and take out the nazi hammer and try to clear the room.
Personally yes, as a matter of fact much like open white racist I prefer open feminists to those hiding it under a thin veil of faked social justice or faked empathy.  As far as your whole "male feminist" comment, I actually asked the opinion of a feminist of a different sex on this and she agrees with me completely.  So, FUCK you distracting from the issue mate.  I know it would be great if I could chill out on the fact that oily ass and unnecessary cleavage, but unfortunately I don't think women should automatically be sex objects, sowwy.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2008, 02:35:12 AM »

Stick it up your ass dick, I distracted nothing, since ineed was talking about dolls already.  You either be a nagger and drag this feud on and distract the thread for real, or you should be a good boy and stfu.
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2008, 02:56:01 AM »

Stick it up your ass dick, I distracted nothing, since ineed was talking about dolls already.  You either be a nagger and drag this feud on and distract the thread for real, or you should be a good boy and stfu.
Ineed brought up dolls in the context of how they are marketed to young women and how they are used to enforce society's gender roles, then sativa chimed in with his random doll pick of the month and ineed chimed in with his spam and somewhere you made your drunken sexist comment.  So really my friend you haven't a leg to stand on.  Don't get me wrong, I've loved some of the righteous indignation you've had towards the system as of late, but if you aren't going to accept ALL forms of oppression as legitimate, including those against women, then you aren't an ally of mine
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2008, 11:00:09 AM »

this would never happen in a discussion about race or religion

BULLSHIT. I don't want to have to pull links to 1,348 different threads proving this wrong, but what pisses me off is when people attempt to make the case that any one struggle is MORE or LESS valid, MORE or LESS important, MORE or LESS socially accepted than another. To say that the struggle for women's rights is more taboo than the struggle for the rights of people of color is ridiculous. WHITE WOMEN in this country have greater privilege than males of MOST colored ethnicities, and UNIVERSALLY more privilege than all women of color. But my point is, don't make statements that imply that one civil rights movement has progressed more than the others... this is what creates divisions as different groups battle for the spotlight.
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2008, 01:58:14 PM »

Ineed brought up dolls in the context of how they are marketed to young women and how they are used to enforce society's gender roles, then sativa chimed in with his random doll pick of the month and ineed chimed in with his spam and somewhere you made your drunken sexist comment.  So really my friend you haven't a leg to stand on.  Don't get me wrong, I've loved some of the righteous indignation you've had towards the system as of late, but if you aren't going to accept ALL forms of oppression as legitimate, including those against women, then you aren't an ally of mine
blah blah blah, like I give a fuck if you give me a stamp of approval for being revolutionary for the oppressed. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2008, 04:48:32 PM »

As progressive as we think this forum is, there is still a huge problem of sexism which I find highly ironic considering that SEXISM is oppression, and many people on this forum belong to a group of people which has historically been (and still is) oppressed. So if we want to get ANYWHERE, we need to realize that ALL FORMS OF OPPRESSION MUST END in order for all of us here to realize our goals.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2008, 05:48:30 PM »

BULLSHIT. I don't want to have to pull links to 1,348 different threads proving this wrong, but what pisses me off is when people attempt to make the case that any one struggle is MORE or LESS valid, MORE or LESS important, MORE or LESS socially accepted than another. To say that the struggle for women's rights is more taboo than the struggle for the rights of people of color is ridiculous. WHITE WOMEN in this country have greater privilege than males of MOST colored ethnicities, and UNIVERSALLY more privilege than all women of color. But my point is, don't make statements that imply that one civil rights movement has progressed more than the others... this is what creates divisions as different groups battle for the spotlight.

While I have no intention of starting an Oppression Olympics either, what I think Anita was getting at is discussions about male privilege, rather than "women's issues". While the latter is discussed somewhat regularly on these boards, the former is not. Discussing this area is vital if we are to develop a fuller understanding of not only sexism, but racism (and many other -isms) as well.
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Born Felipe Andres Coronel on the 19th of February 1978, hip-hop artist Immortal Technique is a controversial figure in the U.S. His songs speak of the need for social justice and equality among all races, with special emphasis on the people of color or Latin Americans, but they also cover topics such as the fight against unfair imprisonments or militarism and many others.

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Immortal Technique Rapper Biography

Immortal technique is the stage name for which rapper Felipe Andres Coronel is popularly known. His lyrics characterized by its unique mixture of socialist commentary of social class hierarchy, religion, wealth, poverty to contemporary issues touching on governmental and institutional racism. Perhaps you may have come across information about this popular icon as you undertake research for that mba online, or for whatever course you are undertaking, be it bachelors in criminal justice, performing arts degree, governance systems, online nurse practitioner programs, history, or any other course for which you have to do online research.

The rapper was born on the 19th day of February 1978 in Lima, Peru. During the internal conflicts that took place in their country at the time, his parents migrated to Harlem, New York. Probably, in the process of migration to the country, they may have used boats at least once in the journey. Like many American teenagers, the rapper was engaged in various acts against the law that led to his arrest several times, which in one his public interviews admitted that they were selfish and at best childish acts. After completing his incarceration terms, he took up a political science course in a bid to mend his seemingly torn life, while living with his father.

After completing his studies, he was not lucky enough to secure a job in his field of study owing to the unemployment situation prevailing in the entire United States. Like many American fresh graduates who take up it jobs, nursing jobs, waiter and nursing jobs among many other common jobs that may not necessarily need a specialist, he took up a working in a restaurant to earn a buck from which he could live on.

Through his deep interest in championing for equality between the elite and the under privileged in society, and being not a Mesothelioma Lawyer, the rapper begun his music career basing his lyrics on such issues as injustice, exploitation and mistreatment of the poor. This is captured clearly in his desire to keep control over his production, since he strongly believes that in the music industry, the producers normally make a large profit while the artist for who credit belongs, normally end ups earning peanut amounts at the end of the day.

His popular sediments are captured in his albums that include the revolutionary, both volume one and two, and the 3rd world and the middle passage album. the rapper is increasingly involved in prison visits and working with migrant rights activists, though which he speaks to youths and the unprivileged in the society trazer amor de volta. His investments are largely in farmland in Latin America, which like soweto properties is an unpopular investment option for many celebrity figures. His advice to the youth is not much on taking up an aacsb online mba or an online criminal justice degree, but rather it is based on exploiting ones talents and living soberly within the law.

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