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« on: March 19, 2008, 04:07:53 AM »

So whats everyone's opnion on China anyway?  Frankly I can't protest along with all the white liberals and Western goverment everytime another human abuse commited by the regime hits the headlines.  I can't do it for pretty much the same reason why alot of progressive Iranians don't want to accept Western help because of their true motives. 

What do you guys feel about the issue?

Unsuprisingly all the punk activists on punkas are angry over my (they claim) "pro-China stance".

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 05:57:24 AM »

the Chinese occupation of Tibet over the past 3 decades is my primary reason of dislike for the nation. their human rights record in tibet is apaulling to say the least, and their recent industrial boom has left surrounding environmental ecosystems in absolute tatters.

however i still put america above them for the scumbag awards.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2008, 01:54:35 PM »

I would love to visit China because I love their ancient culture and stuff, I'm going to start taking King Fu lessons soon and even would like learning to speak Mandarin. But what's happening in Tibet and also how they're destroying entire eco-systems makes me angry. As well as all the fucked up shit some of them did during Mao's rule.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2008, 05:07:16 PM »

Fuck Western nations trying to talk shit about China! On the other hand I support Tibetan's struggle for political freedom.

What a joke tho, people calling for an Olympic boycott. Like athletes are smart enough to understand politics! Wink
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2008, 12:26:22 AM »

part of chinas preperations for the olympics not only included demolishing thousands of homes to build the new stadium, and in order to clean up the smog they have closed down several large industrial areas over a month ago. thus the employees have been stuck with out a job snce then and will continue to be until the games are over.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2008, 01:33:52 AM »

Ecological destruction? My friends, the West are the most virulent players in the pollution game. The number one consumers of food, fossil fuels, and emitters of polluters primarily involves Western nations. I don't care about reductions in EU, consumption levels cluster in that nation close to US. Even the smart car emits 5tons of GHG per annum, rivalling the Indian and Mexico GHG per capita rate.

However the disparity is China isn't progressive. Minorities especially face the most harshest forms of oppression in state. That said, it'd definitely be superior to a Western-run alternative. The West is pretty much a god when it comes to genocides.

PS: In conclusion, the West cannot lecture China.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2008, 03:32:13 AM »

I didn't say at all I support China's actions against the Tibetans, the most predicatable sort of rehtoric against the Tibetans would be "They are party of China" or "They are racially attacking Han Chinese".  I defend neither.  While I am upset that Han Chinese are being racially targetted, it's not suprising considering they are encouraged to go there to out populate the Tibetan population and steal all their business (like Israeli settlers).  But I am not angry that alot of the Westerners would support or understand this Tibetan violence will condemn Hamas or Fatah for doing the same thing.  It's alot fishier when all the Western goverment got so vocal over the issue when they would say fuck all concerning any other crisis. 

You are pretty smug bad mouthing China's enviromental record sitting in your lil liberal Dutch apartment Sativaindica.  Yeah sure your Dutch are good at keeping their enviroment clean, if they want Bio fuel, they can get company to clear rainforrests in Indonesia or move manufacturing facilities over seas.  China is the world factory makes cheap shit for all the "liberal enviromentally friendly" European nations.  Maybe point ya finger at something closer to home maybe?

I am not going to boycott Chinese Olympics because I know that if the next Olympics is held in America or Israel, fuck all people espcially goverment officals around the world is gonna say fuck all.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2008, 03:48:33 AM »

i still put america above them for the scumbag awards.

where did i say the west/netherlands was any better?
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2008, 12:01:06 PM »

in addition the industralization ion the level of china largly already happend in western nations.  and now same goverments are asking china to spend more money for same energies and idiestries.  the polution we have right now was mostly caused by west industializing and now as other countries are catching up they ask them to pay.  that is why india and china said that if other countries what filtration installation they can pay for it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2008, 12:26:29 PM »

The current Tibetan uprising needs to be looked at in the recent context of U.S. policy in east Asia. Independence movements in Tibet and Taiwan are primarily for the establishment of an "East Asia" NATO to counter expanding Chinese imperialism that serves as a competitive threat to Western imperialism. Neocons are attempting to create a China-Taiwan conflict in order to establish a stronghold of U.S. militarism in East Asia, hence the current elections in Taiwan calling for independence and responding Chinese threats. Taiwan and Singapore are already heavily militarized; the U.S. navy overlooks the two key shipment routes for China based on its strategic relationships with Singapore and Taiwan. The U.S. could stop the flow of oil tankers to China in a blockade if it desired, so China is turning to oil pipelines from Central Asia and Russia.

This balkanization is now becoming official policy of NATO to counter "competitive superpowers" like Kosovo's recent independence and growing NATO influence in Eastern Europe to militarize the front door of Russia. Not to mention the desire for Western corporate hegemony to counter Russia's influence in Central Asia, an increasingly important geopolitic hotspot due to its vast energy resources. Bolivia is another recent example as the CIA-backed far-right oligarchy is threatening seperatism in the Santa Cruz province to counter the "social-democratic" MAS and Morales. While neoliberal proponents declare themselves "liberal internationalists", expanding neoliberal hegemony is naturally accompanied by balkanization and expanding geopolitical conflict.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2008, 02:58:28 PM »

where did i say the west/netherlands was any better?
Sorry dude, I got carried away.

But i get pissed when so many Europeans (not directing this at you calling a Euro!!!)fails to see bigger why their goverments "cares" so much more about Tibetans all of a sudden.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2008, 12:29:17 AM »

Why is are all the activists's pamphlet claims all Tibetan protests are "peaceful" when Hans are indeed being targetted racially and murdered?! 

Most of those fucks insults Hamas and Farc because they use "violence to kill innocent people".  But again China gets a double standard. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2008, 02:34:35 AM »

china pays people to go to tibet and marry someone of native tibet culture how fucked up is that?
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2008, 02:57:32 AM »

This is the sort of shit white liberal forum come up with:

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anyone have any proof of tibetans attacking chinese people?

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did any chinese people try to stand up against the dictatorship in tibet?

i don't condone but it is understandable

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