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« on: March 19, 2008, 10:50:14 AM »

I really want to see what people think about this.

From what I've seen, and what I've experienced I want to know why when theres a large crowd of people and pigs start abusing their power they don't do anything. I've seen police brutality before, I've experienced it.

But why when theres a big crowd and someone starts getting hit with a baton people don't do anything but stand there, or run away? Or scream "Stop!!" but just stand there.
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 11:03:39 AM »

They don't know what to do. If you attack a police officer you are going to jail for a long time and many aren't willing to risk it.

I'm sure many assume the guy deserves it as well.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2008, 11:07:45 AM »

Meh, I mean, theres a WHOLE crowd.

They are so scared of jail, but what the fuck are the po-po going to do if a WHOLE crowd of fucking people protesting something, marching, at a concert, whatever jump up and start fighting back?

I mean, thats goes hand-in-hand with the police being another "fear" element for the U.S.


If theres a riot, maybe 12-15 people are throwing shit at them, the rest of the crowd is just standing there. Then they throw tear gas out there and all of them run.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2008, 11:12:27 AM »

Bystander effect. Because the police are an authority anyway, people are not apt to challenge by way of that. But other than that, in a large crowd people are not sure that THEY are the one that has to be the point-man in challenging the state authority (diffusion of responsibility). If you think about it, it's quite a responsibility to take on. Not your average citizen will even bother as most are inclined to accept authority - thus authority succeeds.

States rely heavily on perceived power.
Posted on: March 19, 2008, 11:07:56 am
And yeah, being unsure of which action to take is a factor too. Plus, people having to think about what they might do may stunt their potentiality of actually doing anything.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2008, 11:16:26 AM »

Isn't that sad? People are scared of standing up for themselves, I wish, just wish that for once there would be a real uprising during a protest or riot.

The police are an authority why? Because they say so and scare the shit out of us into believing it? Riding in the car with your homies and they see a pig and turn the music down, they take their hats off just to avoid getting pulled over.

I hate that shit.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 12:12:48 PM »

well look at it this way.

i see a homie getting battered byt he popo, i'm not gunna be the first one to jump in. if somebody else jumps in, i may...

i think that's what most people think, and as a results, nobody jumps in.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2008, 01:04:09 PM »

Isn't that sad? People are scared of standing up for themselves, I wish, just wish that for once there would be a real uprising during a protest or riot.

No, it's not exactly fear. It's more of a confusion than fear. It would be more common for people to fight back if everything was simplified and it were a match between two individuals who perceive nothing beyond themselves. That's probably because emotion required to resist also requires simplification of circumstance. This isn't true for every circumstance like this, it's just what you might call a psychological restriction.

The police are an authority why? Because they say so and scare the shit out of us into believing it? Riding in the car with your homies and they see a pig and turn the music down, they take their hats off just to avoid getting pulled over.

I hate that shit.

The police have power because people support it. Most see the police as overall representing their interests, even though minorities are alienated and subjected to more policing. The majority probably don't find it convenient to reject policing because they exist in the form they exist today, to protect property - this is arguably necessary in Capitalist society. Don't forget that the police are part of government and its ideological roots too, which are bound to be racist and conforming to certain ideals of how people should act. That is bound to be reflected culturally, and since your culture does not co-incide with their's it is likely to be criminalized also.

Basically, police are able to pull you over because they have power, and you have very little of that, especially when interacting with such forces.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 01:45:26 PM »

this one time when i was in like grade 8, a few of my friends and me went around the city with stink bombs and shit and started throwing shit everywhere and we went to the library, let off a few and this security guard gets us...thankfully hes a nice dude and just takes our bags away, he writes down info on one of my friends then the library manager comes and hes even nicer, gives us our bombs back and tells us to just go away cause 'it was a mistake'

anyways if the guard was a dick i woulda been scared as fuck cause i wouldn't know what to do, but now i would
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 01:49:07 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2008, 05:15:39 PM »

this one time when i was in like grade 8, a few of my friends and me went around the city with stink bombs and shit and started throwing shit everywhere and we went to the library, let off a few and this security guard gets us...thankfully hes a nice dude and just takes our bags away, he writes down info on one of my friends then the library manager comes and hes even nicer, gives us our bombs back and tells us to just go away cause 'it was a mistake'

anyways if the guard was a dick i woulda been scared as fuck cause i wouldn't know what to do, but now i would

you must've felt so gangster
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2008, 07:32:54 PM »

pretty much

though i felt gangsta back then

i know im gangsta right now
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2008, 11:58:47 AM »

I've read a report from a former Reagan official, Radley Balko. Pardon me for the pro-market ultra-liberal source, but I do think he has a point. He says it is the militarization of the police that makes assholiness so common. The war on drugs is actually a war on the people. You get to hear about Uncles being beaten up because they did something as casual as jaywalking. People are treated like they're a foreign enemy and this would be why the Police is so brutal.

So maybe we need to attack the principle of the war on drugs with more ferocity. Ideas rule the world.

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I believe that if you start thinking about this in such circumstances, then it is obvious that you won't do it. Arthur Silber talks about it best on his blog, when he mentions the very few heroes who won't torture or beat up others. They won't do it because they cannot, not because they calculated a way out after they did their little heroic stance, or because they carefully weighed the pros and cons of the consequences.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2008, 02:24:45 AM »

Man, from what I've seen, your police is pretty civil.  At least they take tests before becoming cops! most of our cops can't even read and are racist as fuck, mostly those are the ones abusing their power.  But sometimes they get fucked if they mess around with the wrong guy.  Meaning someone that has connections, say a prince or someone that knows one. 

One of my Friends beat up a fucking officer in front of everyone, Th reason was That the officer slapped him and broke his glasses first just for speeding or something, and my friend was Paki so they usually treat them like shit (an example of racism around here).  He probably thought he'd be too scared to do anything about it, since he was a fucking cop and all.  A highly ranked one I might add, but man was he wrong! the officer got beat like a fucking dog. . .  Of course my friend was locked up and got beat up, but only for a week cause he knew someone.  So it was totally worth it!

However, you guys are lucky you don't have religious police(Hay'a).  Those motherfuckers are the worst of all! fucking ex-cons with power!  they became that just because they memorized the Quran and that automatically makes you saint.  You should hear the stories, they brutally beat up people, sometimes even to death, it doesn't matter what you are, man or woman, and for the dumbest reasons, Just recently they beat up a 13 year old! he's wearing a brace now and hospitalized, gives you an idea of what we're dealing with here. 

And they get away with it most of the time, they don't even get proscuted.  But things are changing, they started loosing credibility in the eyes of the government (for a lot of reasons, this would've been completely ok a few years back), after an incident that involved some one being beaten to death. . .  becuase they claimed he was a drug dealer and they infiltrated his house with his mom and sisters inside and beat him to death in his own house! this was like a year ago almost.  Now turns out he wasn't a drug dealer and has nothing to do with drugs, turns out this guy that was leading those fucking Hay'a had beef with him, so it was personal!

It's not their job in the first place, Why do we have cops?
And the kid who got killed had some connections or otherwise, these motherfuckers would've gotten away with it.   

whatever, you get the picture!
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2008, 04:41:29 AM »

german(or maybe just hamburg) police are pansies too
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2008, 04:53:58 AM »

Taking a test means jack shit. One can easily produce a test in order to reinforce a vilified mindset about minorities for instance. It's just a test after all.

The results are what matters. For most part, cops are quite racist, especially when they monitor communities of colour. Police brutality of that variant is quite rare in white neighbourhoods.
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