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[Sativa Indica]

the fuck, lock that shit before i get back, no chance. my sincerest appologies but its not every day you gotta re-locate some 10000 miles said day.

now then,

http://www.immortal-technique.net/forum/index.php/topic,9126.msg120571.html#msg120571

I read it in ur thread that i cant find right now but if i did i would have shown u that u posted it there.. that u dont want to be mod.. so i remembered that.. Otherwise i would have asked u.. I never minded having u as mod.. but the thing was u posted it before..

I cant find it either, ill put that down to dumb luck that post conveniently disappeared, even from the archive forum where I assume old posts from that section go. Therefore im not gonna push that any more, given i have not the evidence at hand to PROVE i never posted in the thread where i was nominated, let alone the date as whence this was all happening. however i did find this..

http://www.immortal-technique.net/forum/index.php/topic,3133.msg34612.html#msg34612

oh man, and just in case any of these 'new bloods' couldn't figure it out for themselves, Investigator=soldier00. PS invest, i thought u was cool too. well i saw you could be a dick, but you aint done nout to me personally, but that doesnt excuse all you done and way you act...

PS YOUR FUCKED NOW SON

Section 4: The Senate

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days preceding the call for a vote on the Resolution.

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overturn that veto.

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5.2  If, after repeated notifications, the member continues to violate the
Rules, any three (3) Moderators/Administrators (provided that at least one of
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days. Upon reaching such agreement, one of the Moderators/Administrators will
notify the Member by email and will post a "Notice of Retriction" in the Senate
Forum. The President may overturn this action and, if so, a 2/3 majority of the
Senate is required to reinstate the Restriction(disregard this, we would use warning system)

5.3 If a member has been subject to the �Compost Heap� forum, any Senator may
introduce a Resolution to permanently ban the member. The Senate must pass the
Resolution by a 2/3 majority to permanently ban the member. If the President
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suspend the account of the Member for 48 hours. Upon suspending the Member�s
account, the Moderator or Administrator must immediately post a Resolution in
the Senate Forum in compliance with 5.2 or 5.3 (above) whichever applies, and
notify the Member by email of the suspension.(disregard this, we would use warning system)

The account of any member who has violated the letter or spirit of section 1.1.1
concerning links to malicious content will be suspended and the member will be
permanently banned. This decision is final and cannot be appealed.(disregard this, we would use warning system)

 

ooooooooooo weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

moving on shall we,

The one other thing is, some stuff that ur saying like this one example ^ ur lying about. And a lot of ppl supported me before too, because they knew i was making it right on the end. Ull find that ppl stood up and said hey.. what u guys doing is wrong.. so i wasnt the only one that was thinking that.

I dont know when it was you are talking about but allow me to re-iterate

but actually one thing changed. in the 18 months ive been here one thing has changed. before NO ONE supported invest when he did bullshit.

shit man, when i joined you had some brazillian girls ass as you AV, at which every member was calling you out for. Yet you still kept it up for like 2 months, of course.

The other thing is this is internet right.. the thing is on me to make this site in order and try the best way i can to make ppl that come here respect some rules and if there was no order alot would be going on(thats one of the reasons ppl like it here because there isnt alot of crazy spam stuff, and emo posts), and not just rules respect the makers and the owners of those sites.. Afterall ur the one that comes to their site to post and criticize.. right?

But you do get respect! When you do shit RIGHT.

http://www.immortal-technique.net/forum/index.php/topic,3137.0.html

I know you run this shit now, but like i said THINK ABOUT IT MAN. Regardless of any discomfort you what to have about it, techs 'market' is for revolutionary people. For people whom, for what ever reason, have a desperate desire for CHANGE, be it personal or mass movement. like I already said

It fine if you want to run a forum that way, there are PLENTY out there that do. But to expect to run a forum which centres around revolution against oppression by FORCING the users to obide by YOUR laws, when YOU DONT EVEN YOURSELF....seriously?

so again, SERIOUSLY MAN?

Afterall ur the one that comes to their site to post and criticize.. right? If there was some order in ur guys's protests i would have considered some stuff being done

AHEM!!! unfortunately, for me, the post PROVING that indeed the protest had order. and if you deny deleting this one i will SNAP. I made the thread cuz like i said, you've never really done anything to me, hence i would not be most suitable for the proper protest of posts with substance. Na ima leave that up to the REAL members of this forum, who at times did piss me off with their ellitism. However i do feel thats due to, tho being accepted as one, i was never able to experience the days when this forum was amassed with dailly posters and debates.

Therefore, i clearly accepted my role as the 'sign bearer' in the movement. You know I dont have much real input to give, iv seen what you've done. But by and large they deserve THEIR answers before i do. Hence i took up the position of offical SPAM co-ordinator. I have never be prone to spam, have always felt that i added substance and relevance to ALL my post, however THIS time i could not.

I made and official post in which i ASKED all members to SPAM.

I stated the reasons why, and even made my objectives be known.

Before said instructions indeed there was very little order. however after an afternoon with sat and setu, we soon saw a pattern appear in the method of spamming.

but everyone goes for themselves and everyone even a little ant comes out and says.. oh why u doing this why u doing that.. when they dont even understand.

ALWAYS, shit i got one now.

wont say anything more, u if u want stick around and see what comes out of this or not and go somewhere else, its fine with me, im not no dictator but u guys made me that, and gave me that name since day one.. and if u call ur brother a nickname for so long, hell respond to it right..

I would LOVE to stay around, but i am not going to rest until the ALL bans have been lifted and you stop the bullshit.

[Sativa Indica]

http://www.immortal-technique.net/forum/index.php/topic,9126.msg120570.html#msg120570

Reb-

Invest is not an authority figure. He is the admin on this site.

EXACTLY. invest is not MEANT TO BE an authority figure. we are suppose to be fight for the one thing we all want the most, and that is a society in which we all get a 'peace'  of the pie. equal, EVERY LAST ONE of US with our rule of those who DO NOT act in the benefit of ALL. is THAT not what Tech/Hiphop Kulture stands for to YOU?

I didn’t ask for it, it came as a surprise to me, but I was “putting in work” though =). That was very evident.

no offence, but I did consider most of those threads to be 'spam'. That being said, is what needed to bring some people back, and, like i said, was the reason in which Dead Press failed. But of course you won't know what DP was, do you?

I don’t obey Invest’s commands. I do respect him for being the Admin. If I ever stop respecting him, I’d rather leave than participate on a forum I have such contempt for.

and THATS why these members are PISSED. This is not just ANY forum, this is not just any online community, this is the muthafucking IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE forum. This has been around for YEARS and the members you see fighting the hardest, do so becuase they helped build up the name, the brand. They have survived, to my knowledge, 3 different versions of the IMMORTAL TECNIQUE community.

But now, they have been banned and removed from the what THEY worked so hard on.

Those other members got their own forum now, ironically about revolutionary hip hop, who dismiss Immortal Technique as being that. Who the fuck do they consider revolutionary hip hop if they don’t consider him? Those people that spent years on this site, clearly showed they didn’t care for it’s existence anymore.

NO CHANCE. you know i wondered that too when I 1st joined, that if this is the immortal technique site, why is he not the most prominent to be labeled as a god among men.

WE DONT DEAL WITH FANTASY HERE. WE DEAL WITH REAL HARD FACTS AND DISCUSSION

Its clear that everyone here thinks Tech is somebody that they want to SUPPORT. that would be the utter madness is that they would contribute to someone they disslike. doesnt that make you think, why not just leave then? why support him further?

Becuase they DO fully support tech. but like i said, we do not deal with fantasy here. when it comes to hiphop Tech is but a drop of blood in the ocean. So when a new cat pops up with Tech is the most amazing rapper ever blah blah blah, but doesnt even know the likes of Rakim or KRS-ONE, nor even know who Kool G Rap is, what would you do?

do we continue to let this young blood think he knows what Hiphop Kulture really is, or do we EDUCATE by means of EXPANDING ones knowledge.

And its the exact same shit for him being revolutionary. Yes he is doing his thing, but is he really comparable to Marcus Garvey?

Shit tech even said it himself, when we hear revolution coming we think YES, finally. when people in some real situations hear that revolution is coming they GET THE FUCK OUTTA THERE. And thats what we have been try6ing to emphasize. YES Tech is by no means perfect, tho you'd be surprised the amount of people that DO think he is the physical manifestation of Revolution, but he is also NOT a major revolutionary.

for a start Chuck D and Public enemy where doing things LONG before Tech when it comes to the hiphop aspect of things. But at the end of the day Tech is doing some progessivelly good things, which do offer change on a small scale thus being aptly given such rapor. However He still feeds aa much of the system as any of us do.

rackman, I appreciate you being back. I am hoping we can work things out and rebuild respect for each other. I like having you here and I admired the way you didn’t join the other forum. I didn’t join their forum after marcos asked me to because I don’t post on forums (just this one).

Rebelle, call me Sativa Indica.

[Sativa Indica]

http://www.immortal-technique.net/forum/index.php/topic,9126.msg120574.html#msg120574

Who the fuck do you think you are questioning me about bullshit like "do you even listen to Tech?" Keep it moving with that shit bro, I didn't join the site to have a dudelike yourself start flames for no reason

1st off

http://www.immortal-technique.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1090;sa=showPosts

Thats who I am

and bra, clearly this was a heated discussion between Invest and I, which YOU decided to enter in by throwing support behind one side, when you dont even know the facts at hand. Therefore, YES you DID insult me.

I didn't insult you so why the fuck would you go and talk shit about my "mum"? Talking shit over the internet like a proper e-thug, keep it moving suckah. How much money COULD Invest be making if he WAS making any? And if you care so much about it why don't you start your own website and talk shit to people there?

I will admit that went overboard, please excuse as i simple do not appreciate when people throw benign comments in, on matters they know not of. Not to mention, 7 months i went without a smoke, had to have had an effect.

But still, I didnt mention ANY money. I didnt mention ANY profits. YOU where the one who came in with his, who cares how people make money nonsense. I was talking about ADVERTISEMENTS, and thefore i HAD to show you why, not only DOES Immortal Technique care about how people make their money, but why we ALL should.

personal application aside, the point still stands.

Your post count and "seniority" don't mean shit nigga, specially when you're posting like you are.

and THERE it is. I just reported you to the mods, a decision will know be made by the senators of this forum.

The words Nigger or nigga are not allowed to be used on these boards. it is a derogatory term used by the white europeans to degrade and dehumanize people of colour. niether are words like Bitch and Fag to be used on the boards as they are Equally offensive and oppressive in their use. Note, ironically one of the reasons why Tech is not real revolutionary.

I'm not sucking up to anybody bro, and I sure as hell ain't gullible. I think whatever the fuck I want, and if it just so happens to fall in line with most of the few remaining people on here, so be it.

If you walked into Iraq right now, not having ANY knowledge of its history, only to see a place in ruins, where the ones in charge (ie US) control and run everything, with but a few 'attacks' made on the maintenance of said place. To then go and automatically PICK the side in Control (Invest/USA) oevr that of the few in opposition....YOUR A FUCKING MORON.

seriously, learn your history before you pick sides, or you could end up on the wrong side, simple due to human mentality of wanting to belong to a group while fighting a common enemy.

[Invest1gatoR]

Ok, here is the deal.. Ill let u make the rules by using the constitution that i had put up(i will obide them too), ill lift all the bans, but u will see that they wont care they'll do as they please(which means spam and all the bs), and  if they do that ill have to go back and return their restricted status. If it sounds good, ill go ahead and unban them. Reply to this post, and ill start.

[Sativa Indica]

Im game for that, however, I doubt highly this will ever happen seriously. I alone can not make this happen. Go for it, but dont expect everyone to fall in line.

I suggest 1st unban everyone, and i do mean EVERYONE, then we can open up a thread with the discussion on how to move on from this.

Also, if you expect to keep the google ads, then let them advertise RHH, who gives a shit if its another forum. How many forums do you check on yourself? we can grow and make this a real community now, with next door neighbours.

You have done shit for so long now i KNOW no one trust you any more, therefore i cant even guess whats gonna happen here but i doubt anyones coming back, and if they do i can not be held for the actions of others.

Any spam comes with a notification FIRST.Mulitple threads, comes with a lock posting abilities/ban, but they have to be able to READ the boards. Before the person get banned for good, they must 1st be put up for vote also by the senate. great thing is if nobody come back then these guys will remain banned, which works for you.

If they actually do come back, we start a vote on who will be mods. people nominate anyone they believe will be suitable for position of global mods.Once the 3/4 bets nominated people get decided, these will then go for another vote for 2 GBs to run the shit. The GBs when did further access and structue the forums as they best feel, always by system of voting.

 A discussion thread is required for you to discuss any matters you might have oustanding with them. This will also be made in the senate area, you can ban for spam, but serious discussion you cant NOT silence. This will more than likely be the more popular thread, but we cant expect this to run with fueding sides. I doubt simple because what you propose NOW, i feel is too late..

I doubt people really care for this place anymore, but you must go by the rules and ill stay.

[yuyaymimi]

props to my chong.
=p

[Invest1gatoR]

Ok, let me shoot an email to someone and ill let you know whats going to happen.